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From: <JCMARTIN43_at_aol.com>
subject: [Paddlewise] Electric bilge pumps
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 06:52:32 EST
We've kicked this issue around on Paddlewise in the past, and I think I
remember that it was our folks in OZ and Kiwi-land who'd done the most work on
mounting small electric pumps in kayaks.  Maybe not.  Just looking for some
ideas.

I'm in the last steps prior to installing the deck panels on a Chesapeake
Light Craft (CLC) North Bay, and wanted to stop to consider mounting a Rule or
other small pump and battery pack in the boat while it's still workable.  Any
suggestions, pro or con, and, if pro, which pump and ways in which it can be
most effectively installed?  How big a battery pack?  What kind?  How to
install a switch and where ... foot operated or thru-deck?  A caution: any
post-installation maintenance is going to require going into the aft
compartment through a 4.5" diameter access plate in the rear bulkhead, and
replacement battery packs are going to have to live with that restriction, as
well.  This is a new, low volume "Greenland" style boat at CLC, and the
maneuvering room inside the hull, once the deck goes on and the ring nails go
in and the epoxy cooks off, is extremely limited.

With those caveats, any ideas?

Jack Martin
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From: Julio MacWilliams <juliom_at_cisco.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Electric bilge pumps
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 16:09:15 -0800 (PST)
I have a Rule 500 operated by a waterproof switch, both of which
I obtained at West Marine.

For the battery I use two lantern batteries connected in series
inside a plastic bag. 

I have not had a chance to count how many times
the cockpit can be emptied before the battery dies.

Does anyone have experience using gel batteries? Can they be submerged?
Or do they have to be sealed from the outside like I am doing with
the lantern batteries?

- Julio

> 
> We've kicked this issue around on Paddlewise in the past, and I think I
> remember that it was our folks in OZ and Kiwi-land who'd done the most work on
> mounting small electric pumps in kayaks.  Maybe not.  Just looking for some
> ideas.
> 
> I'm in the last steps prior to installing the deck panels on a Chesapeake
> Light Craft (CLC) North Bay, and wanted to stop to consider mounting a Rule or
> other small pump and battery pack in the boat while it's still workable.  Any
> suggestions, pro or con, and, if pro, which pump and ways in which it can be
> most effectively installed?  How big a battery pack?  What kind?  How to
> install a switch and where ... foot operated or thru-deck?  A caution: any
> post-installation maintenance is going to require going into the aft
> compartment through a 4.5" diameter access plate in the rear bulkhead, and
> replacement battery packs are going to have to live with that restriction, as
> well.  This is a new, low volume "Greenland" style boat at CLC, and the
> maneuvering room inside the hull, once the deck goes on and the ring nails go
> in and the epoxy cooks off, is extremely limited.
> 
> With those caveats, any ideas?
> 
> Jack Martin
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From: Robert Woodard <woodardr_at_tidalwave.net>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Electric bilge pumps
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 22:06:21 -0500
Does anyone have experience using gel batteries? Can they be submerged?
Or do they have to be sealed from the outside like I am doing with
the lantern batteries?

I have a Attwood 450 ($9.95 at Wal-mart, but I had to order the hull
connector through the internet) and a YT4L-BS (about $35, also from
WalMart). The battery is about the size of a single lantern battery. I also
outfitted the the kayak with an external power connector (looks like a car
cigarette lighter receptacle with a weather flap - about $4 at Wal-mart) so
I can plug in other devices like my GPS.

So far I've only dunked it in fresh water. No problems with this, but I am
concerned what might happen in salt water.

Woody



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From: Bob Volin <bobvolin_at_optonline.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Electric bilge pumps
Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2003 00:54:20 -0400
There's an old discussion on the Paddlewise Web Site about bilge pumps that
may still be useful.  Find it at:
    http://www.paddlewise.net/topics/boatequip/elecpumps.html


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