In a message dated 2/1/99 1:29:57 PM Eastern Standard Time, bhume_at_micronet.net writes: << I'm seriously thinking of installing a footpump. It was interesting to read about the manufacturer of the Henderson foot pump and other possible sources. I've been surprised at how expensive the pump is, compared to $50-80 for most similar pumps with levers in the West Marine catalog. Is there a spring or some other mechanism to return the diaphram after it has been pressed with the foot? It doesn't seem that would justify such a high price. I have a couple of questions about the pump: Does the pump hold water in it after pumping? What sort of check valves and thru-hull fittings are needed or recommended? Any comments about placement and installation of the thru-hull? What are the dimensions of the pump, including the foot pedal? Can you supply a phone number or address for Fawcett's? Thanks for the information. *************************************************************************** Lots of good questions, Bob. For how it works, see Chuck Holst's explanation in a response posted today. It's really pretty simple --- two valves, diaphragm moves water in on the "up" stroke, out on the "down" stroke. Or "back" and "forward" with a spring assisted foot pump; the spring provides the "up" or "back" component. A little water remains in the pump body, but it's only a trace, since most will leak back down the intake hose when the system relaxes. There are no other check valves in most systems; there's enough pressure inside the pump to lock out any significant amount of water coming in the through-hull fitting when rolling or bracing, and you want to have the overboard fitting located high on the side of the boat or on the deck. To get a sense of size, check <www.whale.ltd.uk> and look at the "Urchin"; it will look very similar to the Henderson "Chimp Mk1" deck pumps typically installed on Brit boats. Same footprint but a little higher than the Henderson, possibly a little higher in volume of output, and it has fittings for a 1.5" or 1.0" hose, making the whole assembly a little larger and maybe a bit harder to fit into a kayak --- but only with the very lowest volume boats. (It would fit in either my VCP Pintail or in the CLC North Bay I'm building if I angled it at about 45 degrees on the bulkhead, so it should fit virtually anything else.) The Henderson foot pump is essentially a deck pump with the handle brackets cut off and a spring added, with a small pedal --- imagine a nominal 3.0" disk of quarter inch plywood --- attached to the shaft with brackets or a thicker disk simply added to the top fitting on the pump. Ain't rocket science, and the placement of the pump and the volume of the boat in which it's installed will dictate what kind and size of pedal you want to install. Therefore, the $64K question --- or the $229 question: why does it cost so much? Because. Because that's what the market will bear, apparently. I'm in the process of working with several people to find out the Henderson part number for the spring; these things can be ordered through boating supply shops --- "chandlers" in an earlier (and apparently confusing) post --- who deal with Whale and/or Henderson. As soon as I have the part number (and ordered a couple for myself!) I'll post it here. My <guess> is that that same sping could also be used to convert a Whale "Urchin" --- generally available at Boats'r'Us type places for around $40 --- to a foot pump for under $50. Fawcett's in Annapolis is not the only place in the world that sells Whale or Henderson --- but they're a local, independent chandler in Annapolis, and have been in business there for over 50 years, and I like to support them. They have a web site, <www.fawcettboat.com> but they're not in the "mail order" business, per se. Would appreciate it if we could hold off on asking them too much on this issue --- they're helping me on this now --- until I get something back on the list. Tomorrow. Promise! As a backup, there have to be spring makers or suppliers out there that can build a salt-water proof heavy duty expansion spring --- guessing the guage is about eight --- built in a truncated conical shape (a waffle cone for ice cream lovers) with a base of about 3.5" o/d, a top about 1.5" o/d, and about 4.0" high. Ideas on this last bit? Jack Martin *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************Received on Tue Feb 02 1999 - 14:55:51 PST
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