While this is more a camera issue, the questions has been asked, so... Digital cameras are in their infancy in terms of quality and ergonomics. 35mm film in its many forms still offers far greater resolution, color density, and versatility. If a digital record is desirable you can now do it yourself at home with a desktop film scanner (not the same thing as a print scanner). The HP Photo Scanner, as an example, produces 2400 dpi by 30 bit color density -- a very high quality scan, and is the size of a thick book. Alternatively Kodak will produce its industry standard Kodak Photo CD along with processing at a cost of around 41 cents per image retail. The Kodak photo CD is full professional quality from which virtually any size image up to 20X30" can be printed (presuming you shot the original in Kodachrome II 25 in a Leica or the likes. etc. etc.). In a hurry? My local photo shop will process Kodak Elitechrome (Ektachrome) over night *and* provide a scanned CD of the entire roll up to 2400 dpi for $10.95, and they do it overnight. Richard Mitchell Corvallis, Oregon (541) 752-1323 *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
On Sat, 20 Feb 1999, Richard G. Mitchell, Jr. wrote: > While this is more a camera issue, the questions has been asked, so... > > Digital cameras are in their infancy in terms of quality and > ergonomics. 35mm film in its many forms still offers far greater > resolution, color density, and versatility. If a digital record is > desirable you can now do it yourself at home with a desktop film scanner > (not the same thing as a print scanner). The HP Photo Scanner, as an > example, produces 2400 dpi by 30 bit color density -- a very high > quality scan, and is the size of a thick book. Alternatively Kodak will > produce its industry standard Kodak Photo CD along with processing at a > cost of around 41 cents per image retail. The Kodak photo CD is full > professional quality from which virtually any size image up to 20X30" > can be printed (presuming you shot the original in Kodachrome II 25 in a > Leica or the likes. etc. etc.). In a hurry? My local photo shop will > process Kodak Elitechrome (Ektachrome) over night *and* provide a > scanned CD of the entire roll up to 2400 dpi for $10.95, and they do it > overnight. > > Richard Mitchell last july i paddled a wonderful river trip with a group from my local canoe club, then drove home [an hour's drive] and when i got there, the picture http://www.diac.com/~zen/rmcc/graphics/980712a.jpg was waiting in my emailbox, and i had it up on the "net" within 10 minutes ... voila, a webpage from a trip within minutes of getting home... high quality? don't know, that's in the eye of the beerholder i guess ;-) --- note, i did reduce the size and detail of the image for downloading quickness. can't do that with anything else ;-) mark #------canoeist[at]netbox[dot]com----http://www.diac.com/~zen/mark ---- # mark zen o, o__ o_/| o_. po box 474 </ [\/ [\_| [\_\ ft. lupton, co 80621-0474 (`-/-------/----') (`----|-------\-') #~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~_at_~~~~~~~_at_~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~_at_~~~~~~~~_at_~~~~~ http://www.diac.com/~zen/paddler [index to club websites i administer] Rocky Mtn Sea Kayak Club, Colorado River Flows, Poudre Paddlers The Colorado Paddlers' Resource, Rocky Mtn Canoe Club Trip Page -- Fortune: "In a world without fences, who needs 'Gates'" -- Scott McNealy "In a world without walls, who needs 'Windows'" -- Dave Livigni *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
Mark: There is, admittedly, a 12-18 hour difference in the time it takes to get the display up. On the other hand, for the next 40 years a well exposed and properly stored slide will permit one to make large prints (not practical except in the smallest dimensions and low quality with digital output), project your images in living rooms and halls for others to see (can't do that with digital images), and be reproduced for commercial print applications such as magazines. If the only application is low density web display on current monitors then digital is OK. For anything else, modern film emulsions offer many long term advantages. Do you want those pictures of that great one-in-a-lifetime trip down the Coppermine or to Fiji or the Queen Charlottes available for many years of future sharing and diverse applications or is it more important to get the images up a day earlier? Choose media accordingly. Rich Mark Zen wrote: > On Sat, 20 Feb 1999, Richard G. Mitchell, Jr. wrote: > > > While this is more a camera issue, the questions has been asked, so... > > > > Digital cameras are in their infancy in terms of quality and > > ergonomics. 35mm film in its many forms still offers far greater > > resolution, color density, and versatility. If a digital record is > > desirable you can now do it yourself at home with a desktop film scanner > > (not the same thing as a print scanner). The HP Photo Scanner, as an > > example, produces 2400 dpi by 30 bit color density -- a very high > > quality scan, and is the size of a thick book. Alternatively Kodak will > > produce its industry standard Kodak Photo CD along with processing at a > > cost of around 41 cents per image retail. The Kodak photo CD is full > > professional quality from which virtually any size image up to 20X30" > > can be printed (presuming you shot the original in Kodachrome II 25 in a > > Leica or the likes. etc. etc.). In a hurry? My local photo shop will > > process Kodak Elitechrome (Ektachrome) over night *and* provide a > > scanned CD of the entire roll up to 2400 dpi for $10.95, and they do it > > overnight. > > > > Richard Mitchell > > last july i paddled a wonderful river trip with a group from my local > canoe club, then drove home [an hour's drive] and when i got there, the > picture http://www.diac.com/~zen/rmcc/graphics/980712a.jpg was waiting in > my emailbox, and i had it up on the "net" within 10 minutes ... voila, a > webpage from a trip within minutes of getting home... high quality? don't > know, that's in the eye of the beerholder i guess ;-) --- note, i did > reduce the size and detail of the image for downloading quickness. > > can't do that with anything else ;-) > > mark > > #------canoeist[at]netbox[dot]com----http://www.diac.com/~zen/mark ---- > # > mark zen o, o__ o_/| o_. > po box 474 </ [\/ [\_| [\_\ > ft. lupton, co 80621-0474 (`-/-------/----') (`----|-------\-') > #~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~_at_~~~~~~~_at_~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~_at_~~~~~~~~_at_~~~~~ > http://www.diac.com/~zen/paddler [index to club websites i administer] > > Rocky Mtn Sea Kayak Club, Colorado River Flows, Poudre Paddlers > The Colorado Paddlers' Resource, Rocky Mtn Canoe Club Trip Page > -- > Fortune: > "In a world without fences, who needs 'Gates'" > -- Scott McNealy > > "In a world without walls, who needs 'Windows'" > -- Dave Livigni > > *************************************************************************** > PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List > Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net > Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net > Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ > *************************************************************************** *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
Richard G. Mitchell, Jr. wrote: > > While this is more a camera issue, the questions has been asked, so... > > Digital cameras are in their infancy in terms of quality and > ergonomics. 35mm film in its many forms still offers far greater > resolution, color density, and versatility. If a digital record is > desirable you can now do it yourself at home with a desktop film scanner > (not the same thing as a print scanner). The HP Photo Scanner, as an > example, produces 2400 dpi by 30 bit color density -- a very high > quality scan, and is the size of a thick book. Alternatively Kodak will > produce its industry standard Kodak Photo CD along with processing at a > cost of around 41 cents per image retail. The Kodak photo CD is full > professional quality from which virtually any size image up to 20X30" > can be printed (presuming you shot the original in Kodachrome II 25 in a > Leica or the likes. etc. etc.). In a hurry? My local photo shop will > process Kodak Elitechrome (Ektachrome) over night *and* provide a > scanned CD of the entire roll up to 2400 dpi for $10.95, and they do it > overnight.I hate to be the defender here, but digital cameras do have their uses. I have used one on the job for over a year, and it's been a trememdous timesaver. Since what the camera is being used for is mostly newspaper black and white photography, the resolution of the camera is substantially higher than the halftone screen that we would use for "conventional" newspaper photos. With the addition of a Flashpath adapter, "processing" time has become almost nil -- with a little diddling, I can take a photo and have it running off the laserprinter for pasteup within two minutes. After thirty years of messing around in darkrooms, and the last ten years or so hating it, I ran one roll of black and white last year. Until the advent of the digital, it was five or six a week. Yes, they have thier limitations. They are expensive. They have limited resolution. You don't even think "wet" around them. They really aren't very happy in low light conditions. And so on, and so on. However, there are some applications where they are a godsend. -- Wes *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
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