It looks like some kayakers are besotted by SOTs. Chuck Holst *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
>Hmmm, this thing regarding sit-on-tops is getting to be an interesting >conversation. > Where do you carry your pee bottle on a SOT? What do you do with your paddle when you are holding the bottle in one hand, and that other thing in the other hand? Could be embarrassing in mixed company. Jerry *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
Gerald Foodman wrote: > > >Hmmm, this thing regarding sit-on-tops is getting to be an interesting > >conversation. > > > > Where do you carry your pee bottle on a SOT? What do you do with your > paddle when you are holding the bottle in one hand, and that other thing in > the other hand? Could be embarrassing in mixed company. Well, that certainly would be a detriment. BUT, since it is so easy to hop on and off an SOT as opposed to being in a SINK (a Sit-INside-Kayak, that's what I understand SOT elite paddlers call a closed kayak), you can discretely take care of such needs in the water. Next question! ralph diaz -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Ralph Diaz . . . Folding Kayaker newsletter PO Box 0754, New York, NY 10024 Tel: 212-724-5069; E-mail: rdiaz_at_ix.netcom.com "Where's your sea kayak?"----"It's in the bag." ----------------------------------------------------------------------- *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
On the NJ shore you're likely to see a SOT alongside every LifeGuard Chair. I asked once, and the LG said it was easier to grab someone and haul him aboard with that kind of boat. Easier to get through the surfline too. -----Original Message----- From: asaarto_at_lpt.fi <asaarto_at_lpt.fi> >My local importer sells double SOTs to fire brigades for rescue operations! >Like when people are floating/swimming in ice... *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
In a message dated 2/24/99 8:17:39 PM, klagjf_at_worldnet.att.net writes: << Where do you carry your pee bottle on a SOT? What do you do with your paddle when you are holding the bottle in one hand, and that other thing in the other hand? Could be embarrassing in mixed company. >> The manufacturers of mine have provided these wonderful lil "pee holes" in the bottom. Just pick the one appropriately located for your personal physical dimensions, and voila, instant relief.. As an added benefit, you can check the water depth at the same time ;-) Scott Just east of Cat Cay *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
Gerald Foodman wrote: > > >Hmmm, this thing regarding sit-on-tops is getting to be an interesting > >conversation. > > > > Where do you carry your pee bottle on a SOT? What do you do with your > paddle when you are holding the bottle in one hand, and that other thing in > the other hand? Could be embarrassing in mixed company. Well, that certainly would be a detriment. BUT, since it is so easy to hop on and off an SOT as opposed to being in a SINK (a Sit-INside-Kayak, that's what I understand SOT elite paddlers call a closed kayak), you can discretely take care of such needs in the water. Next question! ralph diaz -- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ralph, here is the next question. Ok, I've hopped off my SOT and am now floating in water up to my neck. One hand is holding the bottle, errrrr, the other hand is holding the bottle "filler", which hand is holding my paddle and boat? Thank you for your enlightened reply. 8-) Dan *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
dmccarty_at_us.ibm.com wrote: Ralph wrote: >>Well, that certainly would be a detriment. BUT, since it is so easy to hop on and off an SOT as opposed to being in a SINK (a Sit-INside-Kayak, that's what I understand SOT elite paddlers call a closed kayak), you can discretely take care of such needs in the water. Next question!<< > Ralph, here is the next question. > > Ok, I've hopped off my SOT and am now floating in water up to my neck. One > hand is holding the bottle, errrrr, the other hand is holding the bottle > "filler", which hand is holding my paddle and boat? > > Thank you for your enlightened reply. 8-) > Dan I have to confess that I was looking at this situation in the wrong way and I should have applied Occham's Razor. Instead of getting into complicated solutions such as hopping off to pee, which some individuals would complicate even more by still insisting on using a bottle in the water (I assume in order not to pollute the environment and take the discharge back to a proper dumping station), the answer is simple. Consider the whole SOT as one large pee bottle! Most SINK paddlers do anyway. :-) The SOT has scuppers in various welled indents in the boat. Relieve yourself into one of the wells; water sloshing inside the well will act pretty much like a flush toilet. If in mixed company or near a dock where you can be observed, hold a dry bag in front of you pretending you are looking for something. Restrain from too broad a smile of relief when finished as that would tip others off as to what you really were doing. Next question! ralph diaz -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Ralph Diaz . . . Folding Kayaker newsletter PO Box 0754, New York, NY 10024 Tel: 212-724-5069; E-mail: rdiaz_at_ix.netcom.com "Where's your sea kayak?"----"It's in the bag." ----------------------------------------------------------------------- *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
The Heritage SOT are the exception. cya *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
Dan Somehow, I'm picturing this guy floating on his back trying to accomplish the task at hand like some sort of sea lion cracking open a shell on his belly. (attempt at humor). If the Coast Guard sees this, having an approved PFD is not going to be your biggest problem. (Additional really funny humor attempt) Leave the bottle secured under a deck bungie since if you open it under water it's going to fill up anyway and you won't be the filler, hop off the boat, have the paddle in one hand and the boat in the other and let 'er rip. Happens in the pool all the time. I suspect this is the method Ralph was suggesting. Larry -----Original Message----- From: dmccarty_at_us.ibm.com [SMTP:dmccarty_at_us.ibm.com] Sent: Thursday, February 25, 1999 2:36 PM To: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subject: Re: [Paddlewise] SOTs uber Alles Gerald Foodman wrote: > > >Hmmm, this thing regarding sit-on-tops is getting to be an interesting > >conversation. > > > > Where do you carry your pee bottle on a SOT? What do you do with your > paddle when you are holding the bottle in one hand, and that other thing in > the other hand? Could be embarrassing in mixed company. Well, that certainly would be a detriment. BUT, since it is so easy to hop on and off an SOT as opposed to being in a SINK (a Sit-INside-Kayak, that's what I understand SOT elite paddlers call a closed kayak), you can discretely take care of such needs in the water. Next question! ralph diaz -- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ralph, here is the next question. Ok, I've hopped off my SOT and am now floating in water up to my neck. One hand is holding the bottle, errrrr, the other hand is holding the bottle "filler", which hand is holding my paddle and boat? Thank you for your enlightened reply. 8-) Dan *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ *************************************************************************** *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
Dan wrote; >Ralph, here is the next question. > >Ok, I've hopped off my SOT and am now floating in water up to my neck. One >hand is holding the bottle, errrrr, the other hand is holding the bottle >"filler", which hand is holding my paddle and boat? > >Thank you for your enlightened reply. 8-) Not sure how Ralph does it but I hold the bottle filler with my left hand and the boat with my right hand. The paddle is attached to the boat with its tether. I activate the VHF with my teeth while checking my position on the GPS with my little toe. I use natural flares that I light with my BIC as they surface. (be careful not to fire them up wind or they drift back down on you. Also be careful not to fire to aggressively.) If I make a mistake I wipe myself with the spray skirt I don't need. I use the biodegradable kind. Be sure to zip up before you re-enter the boat. You could get your bottle filler caught in a deck bungee. Cheers, John Winters Redwing Designs Specialists in Human Powered Watercraft http://home.ican.net/~735769/ *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
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