Without doing a major searchola could someone PLEASE tell me where to find foot operated bilge pumps. I know they were in discussion here in the recent past. TIA Steve Scherrer <Capt' Salty> Alder Creek Kayak and Canoe 250 NE Tomahawk Isle Dr Portland, Oregon 97217 Phone: 503.285.0464 Fax: 503.285.0106 Web: http://www.aldercreek.com Email: aldercreek_at_aldercreek.com Email: acks_at_teleport.com ______________________________________________ *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
Send reply to: "AlderCreek" <acks_at_teleport.com> From: "AlderCreek" <acks_at_teleport.com> To: <PaddleWise_at_lists.intelenet.net> Subject: [Paddlewise] foot pump?? Date sent: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 16:11:51 -0800 > Without doing a major searchola could someone PLEASE tell me where to find > foot operated bilge pumps. I know they were in discussion here in the > recent past. I've already done some major sercholaing, Steve, and there are a few options: you can work with a retailer who works with Great River Outfitters --- the British kayak distributor in the US --- or you can work with Great River Outfitters itself and purchase a Henderson Chimp Foot Pump for something around $220. Or you can work with a boating supply place that deals with Henderson; there is a distributor in New England for Henderson and Whale (same parent company). The list price from Henderson retailers for the same pump is $142, and you can usually get that pretty heavily discounted (just bought two pumps during a Washington's birthday sale for $82.50 each, so there's a lot of markup on these things.) (Can't give you a lot of direction, but Fawcett's in Annapolis, MD is a Henderson dealer, if that's convenient for you. Another option would be to buy a Whale or Gusher handpump for around $45, find a stainless steel conical compression spring to install inside the pump body (having removed the handle) and adding a pedal of some sort to the flange; but having tried this with very limited success, it's not the greatest option. Good luck! Jack Martin *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
In a message dated 99-02-24 22:59:35 EST, jcmartin43_at_radix.net writes: << Another option would be to buy a Whale or Gusher handpump for around $45, find a stainless steel conical compression spring to install inside the pump body (having removed the handle) and adding a pedal of some sort to the flange; but having tried this with very limited success, it's not the greatest option. >> This has come up in previous threads and I have failed to ask what seems an obvious question: Why use a spring return for the diaphragm? This sounds to be slow acting, a waste of energy, and prone to spring failure. The pivot pin for the handle on such pumps is located to the side of the diaphragm, so why not modify the handle to turn it into a treadle, using the same pivot? For those of you who may not be familiar with such archaic machinery as treadle-operated sewing machines, I am referring to a foot- actuated lever which is pivoted at the center rather than at the end (gas peddle) so that you can translate pushing motions on each side of the pivot into bidirectional motion. Push on the side of the treadle opposite the diaphragm to expand the diaphragm, on the same side to compress. You could either mount the pump so the treadle is vertical, requiring a heal/toe rocking action of one foot to pump, or mount the pump so the treadle is horizontal, allowing you to use one or both feet on alternate sides to rock the treadle. I could foresee problems with footroom, but it seems a logical and relatively easy solution. Has anyone tried such a modification? Just wondering, Harold *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
or you can put a stirrup on the handle Sid Taylor -----Original Message----- From: HTERVORT_at_aol.com <HTERVORT_at_aol.com> To: jcmartin43_at_radix.net <jcmartin43_at_radix.net>; PaddleWise_at_lists.intelenet.net <PaddleWise_at_lists.intelenet.net>; acks_at_teleport.com <acks_at_teleport.com> Date: Friday, February 26, 1999 7:34 PM Subject: Re: [Paddlewise] foot pump?? >In a message dated 99-02-24 22:59:35 EST, jcmartin43_at_radix.net writes: > ><< Another option would be to buy a Whale or Gusher handpump for around $45, >find a stainless steel conical compression spring to install inside the pump >body (having removed the handle) and adding a pedal of some sort to the >flange; but having tried this with very limited success, it's not the greatest >option. >> > >This has come up in previous threads and I have failed to ask what seems an >obvious question: Why use a spring return for the diaphragm? This sounds to >be slow acting, a waste of energy, and prone to spring failure. > >The pivot pin for the handle on such pumps is located to the side of the >diaphragm, so why not modify the handle to turn it into a treadle, using the >same pivot? For those of you who may not be familiar with such archaic >machinery as treadle-operated sewing machines, I am referring to a foot- >actuated lever which is pivoted at the center rather than at the end (gas >peddle) so that you can translate pushing motions on each side of the pivot >into bidirectional motion. > >Push on the side of the treadle opposite the diaphragm to expand the >diaphragm, on the same side to compress. You could either mount the pump so >the treadle is vertical, requiring a heal/toe rocking action of one foot to >pump, or mount the pump so the treadle is horizontal, allowing you to use one >or both feet on alternate sides to rock the treadle. I could foresee problems >with footroom, but it seems a logical and relatively easy solution. > >Has anyone tried such a modification? > >Just wondering, > >Harold >*************************************************************************** >PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List >Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net >Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net >Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ >*************************************************************************** > *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
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