My poor Nordkapp, I've beat on it for 20 years now, and its mad as hell and isn't going to take it anymore. We've been having an awesome storm season here on Southern Vancouver Island, best in living memory really, though Oregon has gotten a bit more of the brunt (home of the whining Paddlerwiser, Dave Kruger!) :-) Was out on Wednesday in 40 knot winds for three or so hours, seas were rather lively with much higher squalls and hail from unstable pockets of cooler air aloft (you just don't get beautiful weather like this in the booring summer, Dave, with Mother Nature drum beating on the side of your skull cap). I got pushed up on a lee shore "beach" and bashed and then rolled over a log in the heavy shore break, and split the deck seam along from one bulkhead to the other (6 feet). The two halves are separated now, and I'm leaving for a Central Coast trip in a few weeks. HELP! 1) I can repair the inside seem with cloth tape and epoxy, but does anyone know a good way to stiffen or strengthen the joint so it is better than before? 2) Should I run an outside seam? It "seems" to me that these British boats are heavy and well built, but suffer from the fact that one little thin seam on the inside holds the whole thing together, and once an incipient crack starts, the whole thing un zippers (this happened to a notorious Nordkapp surfer on the Oregon coast a few years ago). 3) I have a custom $400.00 epoxy paint job. Will I have to sand that and then the underlying original gel coat to make an outside seam adhere properly? 4) My boat is kept outside, upside down. Has UV damage weakened the fiberglass? Does fiberglass have a lifespan? 5) Should I buy a plastic kayak from Costco? (VBG) Doug Lloyd Victoria BC Canada *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
Doug-no problemo. Got any duct tape? > Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 00:46:53 -0800 > To: PaddleWise_at_lists.intelenet.net > From: inetex <dlloyd_at_inetex.com> > Subject: [Paddlewise] Confessions of a boat abuser > My poor Nordkapp, I've beat on it for 20 years now, and its mad as hell and > isn't going to take it anymore. We've been having an awesome storm season > here on Southern Vancouver Island, best in living memory really, though > Oregon has gotten a bit more of the brunt (home of the whining > Paddlerwiser, Dave Kruger!) :-) > > Was out on Wednesday in 40 knot winds for three or so hours, seas were > rather lively with much higher squalls and hail from unstable pockets of > cooler air aloft (you just don't get beautiful weather like this in the > booring summer, Dave, with Mother Nature drum beating on the side of your > skull cap). I got pushed up on a lee shore "beach" and bashed and then > rolled over a log in the heavy shore break, and split the deck seam along > from one bulkhead to the other (6 feet). The two halves are separated now, > and I'm leaving for a Central Coast trip in a few weeks. HELP! > > 1) I can repair the inside seem with cloth tape and epoxy, but does anyone > know a good way to stiffen or strengthen the joint so it is better than > before? > > 2) Should I run an outside seam? It "seems" to me that these British boats > are heavy and well built, but suffer from the fact that one little thin > seam on the inside holds the whole thing together, and once an incipient > crack starts, the whole thing un zippers (this happened to a notorious > Nordkapp surfer on the Oregon coast a few years ago). > > 3) I have a custom $400.00 epoxy paint job. Will I have to sand that and > then the underlying original gel coat to make an outside seam adhere properly? > > 4) My boat is kept outside, upside down. Has UV damage weakened the > fiberglass? Does fiberglass have a lifespan? > > 5) Should I buy a plastic kayak from Costco? (VBG) > > Doug Lloyd > Victoria BC > Canada > > *************************************************************************** > PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List > Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net > Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net > Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ > *************************************************************************** > ********************************************************************** Bradford R. Crain E-mail: brad_at_mth.pdx.edu Dept. of Mathematics Phone: (503) 725-3127 Portland State Univ. FAX: (503) 725-3661 P.O. Box 751 Portland, Or. 97207 ********************************************************************** *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
I have both Nordkapps and the differences, while subtle, are significant: 1. Head Seas: The Jubilee has more volume in the bow, so it is more buoyant and tends to ride where the older design plunges, resulting in less water thrown up in head seas. 2. The Keyhole cockpit is a great improvement for those difficult put ins and take outs. I don't clear the cockpit by much, but am able to lift or place my knee with my butt on the seat. 3. I can't comment on quartering seas as I haven't noticed the problem you are referring to in either boat. 4. The compass has been moved further forward, ahead of the forward hatch, resulting in more room under the deck for a pump, etc. 5. The bulkheads have been improved, and are now curved where they meet the deck reducing or eliminating stress cracks. 6. The older design seems faster. 7. I removed the glass seat and use a foam replacement which produced a more stable and comfortable ride. 8. The Jubilee is 5-7 lbs. heavier then the original 9. MAJOR improvement on the skeg! With a slight push of the slider, you can tune this boat for any winds or loading you may encounter. In windy conditions, you can almost steer the boat with the skeg. cya Bob, >> Yes, we do have UV damage here in the great white north, as it is not afected by clouds, but you know that - you're just being a silly guy (too much sun on your head?). I was really referring to the latitude, not attitude! *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
To avoid what "eginears" call a "stress riser" (abrupt transition from a stiff, inflexible area to a flexible area), one can use progressively wider strips of cloth tape on top of each other. This will gradually transition the flexible area to the rigid -- just don't overload the area with too much resin. This used to be standard practice for patching prehistoric white water boats. Eric -----Original Message----- From: Michael Daly [mailto:mikedaly_at_interlog.com] Sent: Monday, March 08, 1999 1:58 PM Cc: PaddleWise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Confessions of a boat abuser inetex wrote: > 1) I can repair the inside seem with cloth tape and epoxy, but does anyone > know a good way to stiffen or strengthen the joint so it is better than > before? > > 2) Should I run an outside seam? It "seems" to me that these British boats > are heavy and well built, but suffer from the fact that one little thin > seam on the inside holds the whole thing together, and once an incipient > crack starts, the whole thing un zippers (this happened to a notorious > Nordkapp surfer on the Oregon coast a few years ago). > My only caution on rebuilding so that it's stronger or stiffer than before is that you run the risk of creating a seam that is too stiff. That would cause the stress and flex to occur at a point above or below the seam and weaken that point. This could cause the next failure to be more trouble to repair. I'd be inclined to make the repair the same strength and stiffness as before and not mess with it beyond that. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ *************************************************************************** *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
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