Since this list is a wealth of information I am wondering about compact butane camp lights. Primus and Coleman each have one. Are there any pros and cons? One seems to be 100 watts and the other only 75. I have never owned a propane appliance and wonder if availability of fuel is an issue. (Sports Authority had both lamps an fuel for neither). Is there a compact gas light available? Preferably one that burns all fuels, can be used as a stove, and then converts to a sleeping pad. Are any of these fuel cells refillable? BTW, I ordered the Kelty version of the wing with their shock-corded aluminum poles. cya *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
(Sports Authority had both lamps an fuel for neither). Is there a compact gas light available? Preferably one that burns all fuels, can be used as a stove, and then converts to a sleeping pad. Are any of these fuel cells refillable? ----------- I've been using this dual fuel one for a couple of years. Ya have to pump it up every 10-15 minutes but it's pretty bright. http://www.campmor.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/ProductDisplay?prmenbr=226&prrfnbr =644 The top gets pretty hot so if yer pretty careful, I 'pose ya could fry an egg on it. If you have a high tolerence for pain, I suppose you could scoop out a little hollow in the sand (you do come from that sandy place with all the old people, right?), lay the lantern in sidewise and lie on top of it if yer butt was cold. Ya can also go to http://www.campmor.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/ExecMacro/search.d2w/input (or rei or llbean or....) and do a search on lanterns or some such thing. Clyde Sisler http://csisler.com *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
>Since this list is a wealth of information I am wondering about compact >butane camp lights. Primus and Coleman each have one. Are there any pros >and cons? One seems to be 100 watts and the other only 75. I have never >owned a propane appliance and wonder if availability of fuel is an issue. I have one of each, both propane. The Primus is a single mantle, the Coleman two mantles. Both produce adequate light. I use the Primus if it's just me, the Coleman when there's a bunch of people. No problems finding propane fuel tanks and they're disposable. Coleman will sell you an adapter so you can run it off a regular propane tank. I also run my propane stove using the same disposable cylinders. Never had a problem finding them. Currently the WalMarts & similar stores are selling them at good prices and in bulk. There used to be a refillable cylinder of this type once, but I haven't seen that one around in years. Butane, on the other hand, is not as good a fuel. Doesn't work very well at higher altitudes or cold temperatures. Also different manufacturers seem to have proprietary containers, so they may be hard to find. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
Bob, I have used a variety of propane and white gas lights when ice fishing. I prefer the propane because it can run it off of a bulk tank, they are available in 5, 11 and 20 pound capacity, or the 1# disposable cylinder. On my recent trip to Baja the outfitter used an 11 pound tank for cooking and had a 2 mantle lantern running off of the same cylinder. Now for my observations on the lanterns: The small Primus single mantle lantern does not give enough light in an icefishing shack to allow the changing of lures and tying knots in light monofilament. Same with the Gaz lanterns. I have a 2 mantle Coleman lantern that I like. For really bright light I have a Coleman Northstar lantern. The trade off here is the bright light goes hand in hand with high fuel consumption. I have used Gaz single mantle lanterns as a low intensity light source to supplement a campfire for eating illumination it was OK as group illumination, but my headlamp did a better job for me individually. When you are camping in snow, a candle lantern gives off plenty of light for seeing. I thought I'd offer that tidbit just in case you are inspired to travel north to kayak under traditional conditions. Dana Dickson > Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 12:08:54 -0500 > From: Bob Denton <BDenton_at_aquagulf.com> > Subject: [Paddlewise] Camp Lights > > Since this list is a wealth of information I am wondering > about compact > butane camp lights. Primus and Coleman each have one. Are > there any pros > and cons? One seems to be 100 watts and the other only 75. I > have never > owned a propane appliance and wonder if availability of fuel > is an issue. > (Sports Authority had both lamps an fuel for neither). Is > there a compact > gas light available? Preferably one that burns all fuels, can > be used as a > stove, and then converts to a sleeping pad. Are any of these > fuel cells > refillable? *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
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