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From: Product Information Department <pid_at_mec.ca>
subject: [Paddlewise] boat abuse/keel strips
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 12:00:06 -0800
I've been following a lot of the suggestions for installing sacrificial
fibreglass or Kevlar strips. Although I have worked with epoxies to repair
my boat, it's something I avoid if I can (I hate the feeling of my alveoli
shrivelling even when I use it in well ventilated conditions:-) so here's
what I've been using for the last several years: at your handy-dandy
chandler you'll find a product called Marine-Tex, available in grey or
white. I use masking tape to mask off the last few feet of the boat keel,
then add the catalyst and gloop the stuff on. If you mix it right you get a
goop that can be brushed on and built up to whatever  thickness you desire.
Once hardened, it can be finished with a rotary wheel (The set Marine-Tex
is so hard that sanding by hand is real work!) As a bonus, it will stick to
itself, so you can fill in nicks, and add the new year's coat without
having to grind it down to bare fibreglass again.   
I've also meet a kayaker who had installed a brass canoe drag strip. I
haven't figured out how you would keep the sharp ends of the screws which
come through the keel from shredding your drybags, short of doing a pour of
resin over them.

Cheers,
Philip T.
N49°16' W123°08' 
"The opinions expressed in this posting are not necessarily those of my
employer, or indeed, of any sentient being."
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From: Dan Hagen <dan_at_hagen.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] boat abuse/keel strips
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 15:03:12 -0800
Philip wrote:

> I've been following a lot of the suggestions for installing
> sacrificial
> fibreglass or Kevlar strips. ...  so here's
> what I've been using for the last several years: at your handy-dandy
> chandler you'll find a product called Marine-Tex, available in grey or
>
> white. ...

This stuff sounds great. I have a couple of questions. First, can it be
applied to gel coat, or do you need to remove the gel coat? Second, is
the stuff brittle? In other words, if you build up a fairly deep rub
strip, will it break off if you wack it laterally?  This might happen
if, for example, you are carrying the boat and swing it around,
accidently striking a post that some idiot put in the wrong place. (Not
that *I* would ever be so clumsy, mind you, but I might recommend this
to a "friend". :-)

Dan Hagen

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From: Product Information Department <pid_at_mec.ca>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] boat abuse/keel strips
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 15:49:50 -0800
At 03:03 PM 3/15/99 -0800, Dan wrote:
>Philip wrote:
>
>> I've been following a lot of the suggestions for installing
>> sacrificial
>> fibreglass or Kevlar strips. ...  so here's
>> what I've been using for the last several years: at your handy-dandy
>> chandler you'll find a product called Marine-Tex, available in grey or
>>
>> white. ...
>
>This stuff sounds great. I have a couple of questions. First, can it be
>applied to gel coat, or do you need to remove the gel coat?
I've had good results from simply scuffing the gloss off the gelcoat,
wiping it off with rubbing alcohol, then applying the Marine-Tex once
that's dried.

> Second, is the stuff brittle? In other words, if you build up a fairly
deep rub
>strip, will it break off if you wack it laterally?  This might happen
>if, for example, you are carrying the boat and swing it around,
>accidently striking a post that some idiot put in the wrong place. (Not
>that *I* would ever be so clumsy, mind you, but I might recommend this
>to a "friend". :-)
A bit more brittle and "chippy" than gelcoat, but also more abrasion
resistant - takes the sand papering of being dragged up beaches better. It
is strong enough to withstand most "paddler malfunctions" such as you've,
and is easily repaired in any case.

Cheers, 

Philip T.
N49°16' W123°08' 
"The opinions expressed in this posting are not necessarily those of my
employer, or indeed, of any sentient being."
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From: Dave Kruger <dkruger_at_pacifier.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] boat abuse/keel strips
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 16:21:20 -0800
Dan Hagen wrote:
> 
> Philip wrote:
> 
> > I've been following a lot of the suggestions for installing
> > sacrificial fibreglass or Kevlar strips. I've been using for
> > the last several years:  Marine-Tex, [snipped and edited]

> This stuff sounds great. I have a couple of questions. First, can it be
> applied to gel coat, or do you need to remove the gel coat? Second, is
> the stuff brittle? In other words, if you build up a fairly deep rub
> strip, will it break off if you wack it laterally?  [snip]

Someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe Marine-Tex is filled
epoxy -- probably with alumimum and/or glass fiber, IIRC.  It is pretty
durable, and sticks like hell to **roughened** fiberglass surfaces. 
Applied to gel coat, I'd guess the weak link would be the gel coat layer
itself.  No fibers in gel coat.

A strip of glass epoxied on with some fumed silica (aka Cabosil) added as
filler (or, for the truly abrasive folks:  200/400 grit corundum!) would
probably be even more durable.  Over on rec.boats.building they natter
about using dyes in their epoxy.  An email to System Three
(http://www.systemthree.com/index.html) would probably net an authoritative
answer from Kern Hendricks (himself somewhat abrasive, but very
knowledgeable).

-- 
Dave Kruger
Astoria, OR

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