BDenton_at_aquagulf.com (Bob Denton) Wrote What is the weight of the stove? I've never weighed it, bit it's mostly made out of aluminum. The actual stove cup is made of brass. I don't think my entire kit weighs any more than the gas stove I used to use. Rob *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
Bob Denton wrote: How does it compare in heat out put? Looks like a good alternative to pressurized stoves I've used mine in temp as low as 14 degrees F. The heat out put is fine for what I need. It's not as hot as some of the noisier smellier variety. But it will cook anything you want to cook on it. It has a fry pan for a lid and it'll fry fish just fine. Trangia also has a web page that I can't find right now. A search should turn it up. Rob *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
Clyde Sisler http://csisler.com It took me 45 minutes to bring 1 liter of water to boil, while with my butane stove I would take me less than 10. I suspect that the BTU of alcohol is very low. -------- I think this is the consensus of the sailing community over in rec.boats.cruising. They tend to favor propane and the like and kerosene I think. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
45 minutes seems a bit long based on my experience. Usually I am just cooking up half liter to one liter for a quick one to two person one-pot meal, but my experience is that it takes about 10 minutes with the Trangia vs. 5 with that ever so popular jet engine the MSR Whisper-light? It is a little slower and cooler, but it is not a big deal. I usually light the stove when I hit the shore (set up an lighting the stove takes a few seconds), and by the time I set up my tent water is ready for dinner. I have not really pulled out the stop watch, but if it was taking long enough to be a problem I might have bothered to time it " don't forget a watched pot never boils!". The fuel value by weight essentially comes from the carbon and hydrogen content of a hydrocarbon,and the oxygen in the oxygenated alcohol fuels is dead weight. Ignoring the relatively small differences in specific gravity between gasoline and ethanol, consider that ethanol is roughly a one third oxygen by weight. The oxygen does not contritue to heat production since it is free from the atmosphere for the gasoline stove, you have about a third less heat for the same weight or volume of fuel. Sisler, Clyde wrote: > Clyde Sisler > http://csisler.com > > It took me 45 minutes to bring 1 liter of water to boil, while > with my butane stove I would take me less than 10. > > I suspect that the BTU of alcohol is very low. > > -------- > > I think this is the consensus of the sailing community over in > rec.boats.cruising. They tend to favor propane and the like and kerosene I > think. > *************************************************************************** > PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List > Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net > Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net > Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ > *************************************************************************** *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
A slow reply. I have been out of town for two weeks (and came back to 1200 emails). I was one persuaded by Robs non-stop rattling on about this stove and got one. I love it so far. Sure, it is slower than an Whisperlight (was there ever a so blatant misnomer?), but we're out kayaking, what's the big hurry? Like any stove, the Trangia takes a few outings to master the quirks (of course, remember learning how to prime a Whisperlight?), but after that it is trouble free. The only thing that can go wrong is some sand clogging up the intake holes. I was just sick of *always* having to service my MSR out in the field, getting covered in smelly gas, and listening to the roar of the whisper. Not to mention, the no-stick pots that came with my Trangia are really really really cool. -Patrick >45 minutes seems a bit long based on my experience. Usually I am just cooking >up half liter to one liter for a quick one to two person one-pot meal, but my >experience is that it takes about 10 minutes with the Trangia vs. 5 with that >ever so popular jet engine the MSR Whisper-light? It is a little slower and >cooler, but it is not a big deal. I usually light the stove when I hit the >shore (set up an lighting the stove takes a few seconds), and by the >time I set >up my tent water is ready for dinner. I have not really pulled out the stop >watch, but if it was taking long enough to be a problem I might have bothered >to time it " don't forget a watched pot never boils!". *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
Yes, Dan, but then when I'm eating my pepperoni pizza, wouldn't you be really jealous? If you're not a pizza eater, how about when I'm feasting on marinated filet mignon? Debbie Reeves > ---------- > I use a cheap, small coffee percolator pot from WallyWorld, likely > Aluminium, to boil my water. When camp cooking, I don't prepare anything > that requires more than hot water. To complicated. Boil water with > entree > pouch. Eat food in pouch. Use water for coffee. Put left over packaging > into large container MRE pouch to pack out. Repack pot and Whisperlite. > Done. > > Later.... > Dan McCarty > > > > > *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
|Yes, Dan, but then when I'm eating my pepperoni pizza, wouldn't you be |really jealous? If you're not a pizza eater, how about when I'm feasting on |marinated filet mignon? |Debbie Reeves Nah. You see, I LIKE MRE entrees! LOL! They really are filling and satisfying. Seriously! Just the right amount of calories, carbs, sugars, and proteins. And if'n your lucky you get the cute little bottle of Tabasco! 8-) I figure the military has spent millions on researching MREs, and they still are, to produce a decent tasting but more importantly calorie and nutrition packed meal. MREs are about the same price, maybe a bit less than the freeze dried stuff. The freeze dried food just does not fill me up. Course they are MUCH lighter the MREs. But I like MREs, they stay nutritionally viable for decades and I like 'em! And no mess to clean up. Besides pepperoni upsets my delicate stomach! 8-) Later... Dan McCarty *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
When I was in Vietnam, we had some sort of K rations (the newer version of C's) and discovered a dog in one of the villages we were in wouldn't eat the Ham & M-F's. We considered his judgment superior to ours and followed his lead. Larry Mills Department of Redundancy Department *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
The K rations were not a replacement for C's. That was the MRE which evolved from LURP's (Long Range Reconisance Patrol) rations. The K's date back to WWII and were emergency energy bars. They contained chocolate and much fat. Kind of nasty but lightweight and had lots of calories. They'd keep forever and served the purpose when you couldn't get anything else. Class A rations are hot food served in a mess hall. Class B rations are hot food served in the field out of mermite cans. Clsss C rations are canned food which could be heated or eaten cold. 10 in ones are canned food in quantity 1 meal for 10 people or 10 meals for 1 person. Sure beats the beans and bacon supplied from the revolutionary war through the first world war. Now you know more about rations than you probably ever wanted to. At 08:28 PM 4/12/99 -0000, Larry Mills wrote: >When I was in Vietnam, we had some sort of K rations (the newer >version of C's) and discovered a dog in one of the villages we were >in wouldn't eat the Ham & M-F's. > >We considered his judgment superior to ours and followed his >lead. > >Larry Mills >Department of Redundancy Department > > >*************************************************************************** >PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List >Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net >Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net >Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ >*************************************************************************** > > Gary Pewitt N9ZSV/KT gpewitt_at_execpc.com 6120 W. Calumet Rd. Apt. 204, Milwaukee, WI 53223 414 355 8147 home 414 297 4307 work Sturgeon's Law "Ninty percent of everything is crap." *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
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