>> Strong endorsement on the Skaonarak. I have an ancient one --- pre-breathable fabrics --- that is an all-purpose piece of rain gear. Also picked up a slightly damaged (stained) Palm storm cag at a kayak show --- fits over everything, including the cockpit rim and the PFD, has a very effective hood, and is bright colored --- flourescent yellow. No breathability, but is a great piece of gear for paddling in cold rain. Long zipper so you can paddle with it in place, and pull it up when needed, but you do have to pull it up over your head otherwise. GRO has it in their catalog --- not cheap, but not as expensive as the Patagucci Skanorak. But not as multi- purpose as the Skanorak, either --- kinda hard explaining the storm cag's skirt in the 7-11 when you're out for milk on a rainy day. Jack Martin >> The GRO catalog also has a Rapidstyle Eskimo Hunter jacket. The hood has sidecuts for good vision. The fabric is not breathable, but it is lined with mesh, and the jacket has a diagonal zip for ventilation that allows you to roll it down around your waist. I almost bought one several years ago, but the neoprene neck was too snug for me. Chuck Holst *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
I also like the Skanorak but I no longer agree about the advantage of fitting over a PFD: Newer PFDs provide for numerous safety accessories to be attached (lights, tow systems, knives, radios or cell phones in pockets, etc.). When I put my Skanorak on over my PFD, these items are no longer accessible -- if I try to load my Skanorak with them, it hangs and when I remove the Skanorak, I have to transfer all the stuff back to my PFD. I now prefer a Gore-Tex paddle jacket w/ latex at the wrist and neoprene or similar at the neck, under my PFD (e.g. Kokotat - it cost less too). Eric -----Original Message----- From: CHUCK_at_multitech.com [mailto:CHUCK_at_multitech.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 1999 7:44 AM To: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subject: [Paddlewise] Ideal Touring Paddle J >> Strong endorsement on the Skaonarak. I have an ancient one --- pre-breathable fabrics --- that is an all-purpose piece of rain gear. Also picked up a slightly damaged (stained) Palm storm cag at a kayak show --- fits over everything, including the cockpit rim and the PFD, has a very effective hood, and is bright colored --- flourescent yellow. No breathability, but is a great piece of gear for paddling in cold rain. Long zipper so you can paddle with it in place, and pull it up when needed, but you do have to pull it up over your head otherwise. GRO has it in their catalog --- not cheap, but not as expensive as the Patagucci Skanorak. But not as multi- purpose as the Skanorak, either --- kinda hard explaining the storm cag's skirt in the 7-11 when you're out for milk on a rainy day. Jack Martin >> The GRO catalog also has a Rapidstyle Eskimo Hunter jacket. The hood has sidecuts for good vision. The fabric is not breathable, but it is lined with mesh, and the jacket has a diagonal zip for ventilation that allows you to roll it down around your waist. I almost bought one several years ago, but the neoprene neck was too snug for me. Chuck Holst *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ *************************************************************************** *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net I have to say that I really like Kokatat's products. I have a a Drytop, drysuit, plain old rain jacket/shell, and the super snazzy Tec-tour paddle jacket (all goretex). On the rain jacket and tec tour jacket, I have found the hood to be an outstanding combination of warmth and rain shedding along with easy visibility. The hood itself does trap a little bit of water when rolling, and the non-latex neck does leak somewhat. I really wish I could have mine retrofitted with a latex neck gasket. I have become a little too used to wearing my drysuit, and I hate getting water down my neck. I too have found that latex wrist gaskets are essential in any conditions. For most people, I think the Tec-Tour is about as good as it gets. Except for the price... However Kokatat Gore-tex anything is a great investment in comfort and quality. I have always found their products to be worth every penny, and once the money is spent, you won't regret it. Goretex also makes it much easier to dress for a wider range of temperature conditions than anything else. I also kind of question the wisdom of wearing anything over the PFD. I hate to think of anything that might comprimize its effectiveness. I also keep a tow belt, knife, whistle, flares, signal mirror and snickers bar on my PFD -- pretty hard to access this underneath another jacket. Kevin ps, the kokatat rain jacket makes a great snowboarding shell. ___________________ / Kevin Whilden \ |Dept. of Geosciences \___ |University of Washington \ |kwhilden_at_u.washington.edu| \________________________/ *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
I agree, I want my anorak under my PFD. I carry my PFD on the aftdeck (shame on me!) and wear an offshore inflatable PFD integrated with my survival fanny pack. It has 35lbs of bouyancy. Sid Taylor -----Original Message----- From: Eric Sonett <EricS_at_sakson.com> To: 'CHUCK_at_multitech.com' <CHUCK_at_multitech.com>; paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net <paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net> Date: Wednesday, March 03, 1999 10:24 AM Subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Ideal Touring Paddle J >I also like the Skanorak but I no longer agree about the advantage of >fitting over a PFD: Newer PFDs provide for numerous safety accessories to be >attached (lights, tow systems, knives, radios or cell phones in pockets, >etc.). When I put my Skanorak on over my PFD, these items are no longer >accessible -- if I try to load my Skanorak with them, it hangs and when I >remove the Skanorak, I have to transfer all the stuff back to my PFD. I now >prefer a Gore-Tex paddle jacket w/ latex at the wrist and neoprene or >similar at the neck, under my PFD (e.g. Kokotat - it cost less too). >Eric >-----Original Message----- >From: CHUCK_at_multitech.com [mailto:CHUCK_at_multitech.com] >Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 1999 7:44 AM >To: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net >Subject: [Paddlewise] Ideal Touring Paddle J > > > >>> >Strong endorsement on the Skaonarak. I have an ancient one --- >pre-breathable fabrics --- that is an all-purpose piece of rain gear. >Also picked up a slightly damaged (stained) Palm storm cag at a >kayak show --- fits over everything, including the cockpit rim and >the PFD, has a very effective hood, and is bright colored --- >flourescent yellow. No breathability, but is a great piece of gear for >paddling in cold rain. Long zipper so you can paddle with it in >place, and pull it up when needed, but you do have to pull it up over >your head otherwise. GRO has it in their catalog --- not cheap, but >not as expensive as the Patagucci Skanorak. But not as multi- >purpose as the Skanorak, either --- kinda hard explaining the storm >cag's skirt in the 7-11 when you're out for milk on a rainy day. > >Jack Martin >>> > >The GRO catalog also has a Rapidstyle Eskimo Hunter jacket. The hood has >sidecuts for good vision. The fabric is not breathable, but it is lined >with mesh, and the jacket has a diagonal zip for ventilation that allows >you to roll it down around your waist. I almost bought one several years >ago, but the neoprene neck was too snug for me. > >Chuck Holst >*************************************************************************** >PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List >Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net >Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net >Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ >*************************************************************************** >*************************************************************************** >PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List >Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net >Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net >Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ >*************************************************************************** > *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
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