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From: Joan Spinner <JSpinner_at_agu.org>
subject: [Paddlewise] need resources
Date: Mon, 08 Mar 1999 08:31:41 -0500
I'm interested in getting a wetsuit, preferably 2 piece, but am
essentially unable to find any online resources. If anyone has www
addresses or even snail mail addresses I'd appreciate it. I have the REI
and local shop information. If anyone has a large 2x or 3x suit that
they are interested in selling I'm in need of this size for the balance
of this season and into the beginning of the next.  The main thing is
that most of the suits are made for men and not women so I can hardly
breathe in the ones with the small tops. Even if I can get used to not
breathing my back begins to hurt from the pressure on my shoulders. The
2x is fine on the bottom but I need the 3x on top, therefor the two
piece. Does anyone make large women's suits or PFDs? I hear Lotus makes
women style PFDs but I can't even verify that.

Joan Spinner
Maryland
JSpinner_at_agu.org
JSpinner_at_compuserve.com

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From: Lorraine&Dennis <raisden_at_nh.ultranet.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] need resources
Date: Mon, 8 Mar 1999 08:43:20 -0500
Joan
Try NRS.   www.nrsweb.com

Dennis
>


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From: <rdiaz_at_ix.netcom.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] need resources
Date: Mon, 08 Mar 1999 09:19:40 -0800
Joan Spinner wrote:
> 
> I'm interested in getting a wetsuit, preferably 2 piece, but am
> essentially unable to find any online resources. If anyone has www
> addresses or even snail mail addresses I'd appreciate it. I have the REI
> and local shop information. If anyone has a large 2x or 3x suit that
> they are interested in selling I'm in need of this size for the balance
> of this season and into the beginning of the next.  The main thing is
> that most of the suits are made for men and not women so I can hardly
> breathe in the ones with the small tops. Even if I can get used to not
> breathing my back begins to hurt from the pressure on my shoulders. The
> 2x is fine on the bottom but I need the 3x on top, therefor the two
> piece. Does anyone make large women's suits or PFDs? I hear Lotus makes
> women style PFDs but I can't even verify that.

Checking out NRS has been mentioned and there suits seem to be good and
reasonably priced.  A couple of options in the NRS family

1.  NRS has a woman's Farmer Jane suit with a relief zipper!  I believe
that is an industry first.  I recommended it to someone in email but I
have not heard back what her experience with it was.  It cost I think
$119 or $129 BUT when she called NRS she found that they had made a
number of the suits with double zipper pulls on the relief zipper,
meaning there is a second pull that would reside under and back.  They
are charging just $59 for that version and would exchange if found to be
uncomfortable.  Not to get too much into anatomy but that second pull
probably is an area not in contact with flesh, i.e. in the crevasse
created by the buttocks.  NRS staff people have used them and found them
okay.

2.  NRS is making something called Hydroskin a multilayered product that
seems to have the equivalency of 2 mm neoprene.  It looks super stretchy
and comes in several different style tops (vest, short sleeve, long
sleeve) as well as pants and shorts and a Farmer John.  It is super
stretchy and that may be what you need.  You could get the pants, say,
in one size and a short sleeve top and vest in other sizes for the top. 
In effect you would then have 2mm equivalency in the sleeves and legs
and about 4 mm in the trunk area.  Do check with them however if the
stuff is the equivalency of 2 mm; that's a guess on my part.  The actual
material has an outer lycra kind of stretchy cover, a second layer of
0.5 mm neoprene, a third Tri-Coat layer which has reflective material in
it, and microfleece on the fourth inner most layer.

3.  Give them a call.  I am certain you can discuss your sizing
situation with them and come up with a quality solution.  At
1-800-635-5202.  You may also discover things like old styles, slight
mistakes in manufacturing that would reduce the cost of buying a suit.

Oh yes, Lotus indeed makes women sizes cut for women in a way that the
PFD puts minimum pressure on the bosum.  Oh, they tend to run larger
than the stated size.  I have never been comfortable in any PFD except
size Large and up.  I fit just fine in the Medium.  My wife has the
Lotus woman's PFD...she normally prefers a Medium PFD but does happily
in the Lotus Small.

ralph

ralp 
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From: Gabriel L Romeu <romeug_at_erols.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] need resources
Date: Mon, 08 Mar 1999 10:58:28 -0500
rdiaz_at_ix.netcom.com wrote:
> 
> Joan Spinner wrote:
> >
I hear Lotus makes
> > women style PFDs but I can't even verify that.
> 
> Oh yes, Lotus indeed makes women sizes cut for women in a way that the
> PFD puts minimum pressure on the bosum.  Oh, they tend to run larger
> than the stated size.  I have never been comfortable in any PFD except
> size Large and up.  I fit just fine in the Medium.  My wife has the
> Lotus woman's PFD...she normally prefers a Medium PFD but does happily
> in the Lotus Small.
> 
> ralph
> 

There was a review article in a recent article in recent Sea Kayaker
magazine on pfd manufactured for women, 4 in fact.  I was certain that I
had their site on my bookmarks, think I had seen the review on the net,
but can't find it now.  Got the Stohlquist based on this as a gift, it
was for for it's tendency to float you face up.  I had gathered they
liked all of the models for different reasons however including the
Lotus...my mistake was getting a LOtus in black, would've gotten one in
a more visible color as yellow if I wasn't in such a hurry.



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From: Steve Cramer <cramer_at_coe.uga.edu>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] need resources
Date: Mon, 08 Mar 1999 09:32:09 -0500
www.roadrunnersports.com has women's farmer jane wetsuits, one piece,
long or short. Lotus does make a woman's PFD, so does Extrasport. 

Another option: try fuzzy rubber made by Rapidstyle. It's almost as warm
as a wetsuit, much more comfortable to wear, and you can buy a lng
sleeve top, pants, and/or a vest. My wife wears hers under her Mae Vest,
and is very comfortable.

Steve

Joan Spinner wrote:
> 
> I'm interested in getting a wetsuit, 
> Does anyone make large women's suits or PFDs? I hear Lotus makes
> women style PFDs but I can't even verify that.
> 

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From: Joe Pylka <pylka_at_castle.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] need resources
Date: Mon, 8 Mar 1999 09:42:17 -0500
        I just received the latest catalog from Northwest River Supplies,
Inc. which has an extensive line of wetsuits specifically tailored for
women.  You can reach them at:
http://www.nrsweb.com/

        In the past they have been a very responsible vendor.
JP

From: Joan Spinner Date: Monday, March 08, 1999 9:22 AM
Subject: [Paddlewise] need resources


>I'm interested in getting a wetsuit, preferably 2 piece, but am
>essentially unable to find any online resources. If anyone has www
>addresses or even snail mail addresses I'd appreciate it.

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From: Sisler, Clyde <Clyde.Sisler_at_wang.com>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] need resources
Date: Mon, 8 Mar 1999 09:39:11 -0500
piece. Does anyone make large women's suits or PFDs? I hear Lotus makes
women style PFDs but I can't even verify that.


I think the Lotus Lola is a woman's PFD.  You can check them out at
http://lotusdesigns.com/.

http://www.nocweb.com/, http://www.nrsweb.com/, http://www.sierrasouth.com/
are good online resources.  You can find additional resources at
http://csisler.com/Kayaks/Links/Commercial/OnlineStores.htm

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From: wildwater <wildoats_at_ionet.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] need resources
Date: Mon, 08 Mar 1999 19:15:08 -0600
Try one of these:

http://www.nrsweb.com/
http://www.nocweb.com/


Joan Spinner wrote:

> I'm interested in getting a wetsuit, preferably 2 piece, but am
> essentially unable to find any online resources. If anyone has www
> addresses or even snail mail addresses I'd appreciate it. I have the REI
> and local shop information. If anyone has a large 2x or 3x suit that
> they are interested in selling I'm in need of this size for the balance
> of this season and into the beginning of the next.  The main thing is
> that most of the suits are made for men and not women so I can hardly
> breathe in the ones with the small tops. Even if I can get used to not
> breathing my back begins to hurt from the pressure on my shoulders. The
> 2x is fine on the bottom but I need the 3x on top, therefor the two
> piece. Does anyone make large women's suits or PFDs? I hear Lotus makes
> women style PFDs but I can't even verify that.
>
> Joan Spinner
> Maryland
> JSpinner_at_agu.org
> JSpinner_at_compuserve.com
>
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From: <DANJW_at_aol.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] need resources
Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 09:54:00 EST
Try this site, a good listing of paddlesport suppliers - touring, WW and canoe
tripping.   -
http://www1.shore.net/~malmros/Paddling/Gear/Supplier_Links.htm
Dan
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From: Andree Hurley <ahurley_at_viewit.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] need resources
Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 12:48:26 -0500 (EST)
Or there is:

http://www.viewit.com/wtr/kayak.html

:)

Andree Hurley
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