Re: [Paddlewise] Baidarka

From: Kirk Olsen <kolsen_at_imagelan.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 10:48:33 -0400 (EDT)
On Mon, 12 Apr 1999, Michael Daly wrote:

> I was asking some small-aircraft-pilot friends of mine about materials to use
> for making a skin on frame kayak (one of them is making three stitch&glue
> boats) and they suggested heavy weight Ceconite (dacron).  Would this be
> good?

I've seen a few  boats with Ceconite skins, buying dacron is cheaper since 
Ceconite is a trade name and also needs to meet aeronautical specs.  I also
know of one builder who had a bad experience with Ceconite.  He normally 
builds with canvas and coats with enamel porch paint.  He built a boat with
ceconite and porch paint.  On the day he first launched it he paddled in 
some skim ice.  The ice cut through the paint (something that 
didn't happen with canvas) and his boat started to leak badly.  He 
promptly got to shore, then went home and tore the ceconite skin off.

If you want bombproof George Dyson sells a 26 ounce double woven nylon
that should survive just about anything...  Polyester fabric, nylon fabric,
canvas are other fabric choices.  One person was planning to try a hemp 
fabric, I haven't heard how the hemp fabric is working out.

> They also said to stay away from polyurethanes, especially the two part kinds.
> They suggested the polydope stuff would be fine.  Any opinions? 

Opinions on the Internet?

2 part polys work well, zar satin varnish with aliphatic urethane comes out 
clearer than 2 part poly (less of a tan or gold tone, but aliphatic 
urethane is tremendously toxic).  If you aren't going for translucent 
hypallon, or enamel porch paint work well, others use regular latex house
paint.

A few years ago I saw a boat that had epoxy resin over fabric, the resin 
wasn't flexible enough, it had numerous spiderweb cracks and leaked badly.

A non-sewing option for doing a boat is hypallon coated polyester fabric, 
like what is used for awnings.  Reportedly this is "welded" together with
solvents instead of sewn on and then coated.  I've yet to see one of these
in person.
 
kirk
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