In a message dated 4/15/99 11:42:13 AM Pacific Daylight Time, kwhilden_at_u.washington.edu writes: <<I have a question about the Eclipse... Does it weathercock? How about the Vizcaya? The latter looks like a really nice hull, but I HATE plastic boats that weathercock. About the only one that does fine without skeg or rudder is the Dagger Magellan,>> I've never experienced a kayak that doesn't have *some* weather helm (weather cocking) in heavy conditions. The trick is to find one that fits your definition of best performance in the widest possible range of conditions. I thoroughly believe that, regardless of the kayak you select, you will occasionally find yourself in conditions that make you thoroughly disappointed in that boat. It just isn't possible to make a boat that is all things to all people in all conditions. I've paddled the Sea Lion (the predecessor of the Eclipse) a lot in heavy conditions. My impression was that it was loose-tracking enough and responsive enough to hip-steering that it was very easy to control weather helm in most conditions. I don't remember it ever exhibiting excessive weather helm. I don't have any experience with the Vizcaya, though it is an interesting-looking boat. Since it is a new model, you would definitely want to paddle it in a wide range of conditions before selecting it. The Magellan I have never paddled, but I have a friend who has a fiberglass Magellan SK (with skeg) and she positively loves it. You really need to try the boats out if you want to make an informed decision. Every boat will respond differently for different paddlers, depending upon their weight, strengths, style and the location of their normal paddler/boat center of gravity. Also, everyone's judgment of a particular boat is very subjective, colored heavily by their tastes and styles, and their opinion of what constitutes good performance in a kayak, or even what constitutes something as seemingly clear as "weather-cocking". Therefore, you should be careful about putting too much weight in my (or anyone else's) experience with a particular boat Since you're in WA, try going to NWOC, PWS and the other suppliers in your area and try everything in their fleets. When you feel you can narrow your selection process down to two or three models, rent them for a day or two and get them out in as wide a variety of conditions as you can. If a clear winner becomes apparent, buy it and love it forever. If not, you can make your final decision between the front-runners based upon features, trust in the manufacturer, history, price, warranty and other such factors -- not the least of which will be color and sex-appeal. :-) One other thing. No matter your choice, as you acclimate to the boat and become more familiar with its performance curve, you will find it easier to control and more satisfying to paddle. Good Luck, and let us know how it goes. Harold *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************Received on Thu Apr 15 1999 - 13:55:27 PDT
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