Re: [Paddlewise] Dry Suit Field Test (add dry top)

From: inetex <dlloyd_at_inetex.com>
Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 13:18:21 -0700
Dave Kruger wrote:

>Small question:  when rolling or wet exiting, do you find there is much
>leakage at the bottom of the dry top?  What mfr/model do you have?  I use
>Kokatat's Goretex paddle jacket, which has the neoprene tube/bungie closure
>at the waist, and have never encountered much leakage in the little bit of
>stern use I have made of this arrangement.  But, I think that may be the
>weak spot for my rig.

My answer:

My Navarro dry top has a double tube seal with the spray skirt. It works
well enough, but does permit more than a modicum of H20 in, if I'm swimming
in heavy surf, if I bail and make a long swim. It works great if I remain
in my boat. these dry tops are designed for whitewater use. My particular
dry top has both a latex neck gasket and a neoprene closure. My point in my
last post was that I cut the latex a little more on the comfortable side,
then velcro shut the neoprene closure for wilder water or swims. 

>What's your experience?

I did a wet exit last week off Trial Island in a big tide rip on purpose,
as my rudder failed. I swam around, fixed it, then did a re-enter and roll,
pump-out with foot pump, etc, and continued on.(I use my short Lotus web
tow line as a tether to keep me connected to the kayak). The four minutes
in the water produced some wetness around my waist. Obviously water will
migrate up one's torso wearing a wet suit anyway. However, the waist seal
is the weak link for certain. My expectations are modest without a full dry
suit. I actually don't own a full dry suit (subsequently, I do not paddle
solo during arctic-outbreak weather where much wind is present or a
possibility - which it usually is). I shall purchase one when some
manufacturer offers custom sizing at a reasonable price, in a breathable
fabric other than Goretex. BTW, my wet suit has a zipper installed for
"watering the horse", so winter paddling is a little less traumatic - well,
at least on land.  

(Ladies, disregard following) I did some research for an extensive article
(currently on hold) for SK Magazine on Paddle Float Rescues. The on-water
part was done in winter storm conditions. Those of us wearing the wet
suit/dry top combo froze our "you know whats off"...and I mean more than
our butts. Those in the group wearing drysuits faired much
better...something about a "warm cold" was the comment from one paddler. A
wet suit/dry top combo is a, well, "wet cold" (you gotta have the
bal...never mind!).

On our trip down from Bella Bella to Port Hardy (10 day trip plan) we
encountered snow, hail squalls, and ice conditions. One day was so cold
that I wore three layers under a summer short sleeve paddling jacket; over
that I wore my dry top, and over that I wore a British made Wildwater cag
with hood. I was still cold, and the group was reduced to survival fires on
the beach. Interestingly, all our gear was synthetic. The sparks from our
fire, plus the intense heat, melted and/or put holes in most of our
clothing gear. I think next time (if my wife ever lets there be a next
time) I would take a bit more wool gear where wet and cold conditions were
going to be the norm on an off season paddle. You just can't beat the smell
of roasting and toasting wool on an open fire. N

Now, would somebody please order some summer around here, it is still
snowing in parts - what a year! A year for drysuits...maybe a year for
space suits: you know, thermally controlled for heat or cold, built in
skirt and pump, water supply with hydration hose and water temp control, an
internal oxygen reserve for slow Eskimo rollers, maybe heads up display on
helmet visor with GPS read-out, ear speaker and voice activated VHF,
satellite linkup to call home, range finder, night vision, helmet mounted
camera/ VHS camcorder, etc. Oh, sorry, I shouldn't share my most intimate
fantasies on a public listserver. :-)         
>
>BC'in YA
>Doug Lloyd 
>>-- 
>>Dave Kruger
>>Astoria, OR
>>
>>
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