Dan wrote; >> Do you ever paddle in conditions where you would not paddle unless you had >> a rescue skill or rescue gear? >> >> Would you refuse to paddle in higher risk conditions if you did not have >> the gear? > >Yes to all of the above. This is entirely rational (so long as I don't >misinterpret the risk). That, I believe constitutes the meat of my argument. I suspect Dan would never, ever ("Well hardly ever") misinterpret the risk. Others, without his expertise and skill and experience do. Matt's book has lots of examples. One might even say that most accidents (but without authority) result from misinterpreting risk. In Dan's case, where he has a wealth of experience and knowledge to support his decision, the added risk fits his paddling profile.The mistake here involves assuming that Dan represents any but the most experienced level of paddler. Dan's response to the questions seems perfectly acceptable but imagine a less experienced paddler providing the same answers. Then we might pass along to imagine Dan actually making a mistake and then reassess his answers. The Extrasport advertisement that I have included in my web site provides good examples of people who errored in assessing the danger and their abilities. >The purpose is *not* to allow one to be able to >paddle in difficult conditions as safely as one could paddle in the >pool. Of course there is an increase in risk in paddling in difficult >conditions, even with the skills and equipment. But the goal is to >optimize risk, not to minimize risk. (SNIP) I cannot recall saying or implying this. Perhpas I failed to make myself clear. My point had to do with unrealistic assumptions of safety. Dan hits the nail on the head. I believe I made this point (optimizing risk) some time back and supported it with Gerald Wilde's (and others) research. My comments apply to those who assume greater safety than reality provides. I suspect most of the better paddlers here have paddled with people who fit the profile. I know Richard Culpeper has pulled a lot of them out of the water. (SNIP) >But the fact that some paddlers choose to take >on greater risks because of their skills and equipment is not by itself >evidence of a problem. Not all risk is irrational. Absolutely, Some time back I made the point that human nature favored risk. At no time have I implied that all risk was irrational. However, when a paddler chooses to take on more risk (non-optimization) than he should it does indicate a problem. Dr. Wilde provides more than a few examples of how people fail to optimize their risk. Most often the non-optimization stems from inflated impressions of safety whether from careless instruction or inflated claims of safety. My concerns have nothing to do with those who do everything correctly but with those who mislead themselves or get misled. Nick wrote; >But people do not spend all their time in the worst conditions they can >safely handle. They probably spend at least half the time in pretty benign >conditions. But what happens during the other half? All that time spent in benign conditions may lure people into that false sense of security that eventually gets them into trouble especially when things start out benign and turn nasty. Matt's book has plenty of examples of that. Cheers, John Winters Redwing Designs Specialists in Human Powered Watercraft http://home.ican.net/~735769/ *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************Received on Fri May 14 1999 - 05:33:50 PDT
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