Re: [Paddlewise] The Epoxy Experience

From: Dave Kruger <dkruger_at_pacifier.com>
Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 22:39:09 -0700
I had an elaborate summary crafted of the pros and cons of using acetone or
vinegar to clean epoxy residue (cured/uncured) off your skin.  Then Netscape
puked and I lost it all.

The bottom line(s):

Dana was right, and I was wrong:  acetone is not innocuous for cleaning epoxy
off your skin.  He's right:  it can hasten breakdown of the protective barrier
skin provides, thereby substantially increasing the chance of sensitization. 
I had forgotten that.

Someone else (Phil Daligan?) indicated the West System people (I think) use a
proprietary version of vinegar for cleanup, but with no mention of use on
hands.

Everybody agrees gloves are mandatory to avoid sensitization.  Dana recommends
nitrile gloves and  "a respirator with super cartridges (organic vapor, amine,
acid gas, HEPA, + combo)."  The respirator is more than the MSDS Sheets from
System Three suggest *for casual use* of epoxy (see: 
http://www.systemthree.com/index.html and select System Three Epoxy and
(farther down the page) Part B System Three Hardener #1 ...)), so I guess each
of us
gets to judge that, though if I worked with the stuff regularly I probably
would go Dana's route.  YMMV.

Finally, the owner of System Three chimed in with the post below my sig --
food for thought for the folks who advocate the use of vinegar as cleanup on
skin, inasmuch as vinegar and epoxy may form compounds not tested for their
reactivity and/or toxicity, just as acetone and epoxy may (ketamines).
-- 
Dave Kruger
Astoria, OR
humbled chemist
--
>Dave Kruger <dkruger_at_pacifier.com> wrote:

> >Anybody got **data** (don't need anecdotal stuff) to back up (or refute) the
> >claim that using acetone to clean up increases epoxy transfer through skin?
> 
> I don't have any data on this particular question.  However, acetone will
> readily react with amines forming ketamines.  This is a reversible reaction
> with water given off in the condensation of the ketone and amine.  The
> toxicology of ketamines has not been rigorously studied and I'd be more
> concerned with this than with your original question insofar as health goes. 
> I'd be more inclined to use solvent alcohol, isopropyl alcohol or something
> that would not react with amines.
> 
> W. Kern Hendricks
> System Three Resins, Inc.
> P.O. Box 70436
> Seattle, WA  98107
> Orders Only:  800/333-5514
> Technical Support:  206/782-7976
> e-mail:  support_at_systemthree.com
> website: www.systemthree.com
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