I recently got a Patagonia thermal stretch (or maybe it's a different trademark material) vest. When I asked about matching shorts to complete the ensemble I was told Pat stopped making them because of 'delamination'. I've found other makers, but was wondering if this is common amongst the variations on the fuzzy theme. Any experience on buttal wear of these materials? *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
E. Sullivan wrote: > > I recently got a Patagonia thermal stretch (or maybe it's a different trademark > material) vest. When I asked about matching shorts to complete the ensemble I was told > Pat stopped making them because of 'delamination'. I've found other makers, but was > wondering if this is common amongst the variations on the fuzzy theme. Any experience on > buttal wear of these materials? I understand, but not from personal knowledge, that the fuzzy rubber kind which has a rubber-like outer surface abrades quickly. It is what Patagonia uses under a proprietary name and others call someething else. It is really Polartec Rubberized Thermal Stretch. The plain ole thermal stretch, on the other hand, wears well. It is sometimes called Polartec Themal Stretch and can appear under different names such as Hydro Stretch as sold by LL Bean. I was wearing the latter, the non-rubberized kind, when I got some serious splinters from a chewed up dock. I expected to find holes as I pulled out the splinters but there was absolutely no damage to the material. The advantage of the rubberized kind is that it dries much more quickly and, by shedding water so fast, doesn't have as much evaporative cooling as the basic kind. the rubberized kind doesn't breath as well and is not quite as stretchy as its lowly sister material. ralph diaz > > *************************************************************************** > PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List > Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net > Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net > Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ > *************************************************************************** -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Ralph Diaz . . . Folding Kayaker newsletter PO Box 0754, New York, NY 10024 Tel: 212-724-5069; E-mail: rdiaz_at_ix.netcom.com "Where's your sea kayak?"----"It's in the bag." ----------------------------------------------------------------------- *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
I am told that the boys from Thunder Bay ventured down to the Ottawa River last summer, where one of the raft guides vowed that his remarkable amorous adventures were due to fuzzy rubber. The previous season he had no fuzzy rubber and he was a lonely man. This season, armed with fuzzy rubber, he found himself to be quite a man about the dingy. The Thunder Bay boys immediately spent their life savings on articles of fuzzy rubber. Since then it is all that they wear. Fuzzy rubber on the river. Fuzzy rubber apres paddle. A small tribe of fuzzy rubbers wandering about the north. Unfortunately (or perhaps fortunately), I have been told that regardless of what fuzzy rubber did for the raft guide, it has not helped the Thunder Bay boys become more accomplished, er, well, you know...paddlers. Cheers, Richard Culpeper www.geocities.com/~culpeper *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
> > > I understand, but not from personal knowledge, that the fuzzy rubber > kind which has a rubber-like outer surface abrades quickly. It is what > Patagonia uses under a proprietary name and others call someething > else. It is really Polartec Rubberized Thermal Stretch. The plain ole > thermal stretch, on the other hand, wears well. So, if you abrade the rubber coating off, will you still be left with the 'thermal stretch' part? I mean: does the abrading significantly degrade the insulation, or just make it look nasty? *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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