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From: <Strosaker_at_aol.com>
subject: [Paddlewise] Successful Catalina Crossings
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 01:17:51 EDT
Fellow Kayakers,

Jim Gabriel, Jake Jacobs, Dave Murray and I had a great time at Santa 
Catalina Island Thursday through Sunday, June 17th through 20th, 1999.  We 
arrived at Cabrillo Beach Park in San Pedro just before the park opened at 
5:00am and launched through small two foot surf just as it became daylight at 
5:45am.  Due to a heavy marine layer of clouds, the island wasn't in sight, 
so we headed to Two Harbors at the island by following a bearing of 200 
degrees magnetic.

The weather was perfect for the twenty nautical mile crossing.  We had glassy 
conditions the whole way.  We lost sight of San Pedro at 8:30am, and we 
gained sight of the Isthmus at Two Harbors at 9:00am.  About five miles out 
from Catalina, a large school of Dolphins crossed in front of us and 
repeatedly jumped high out of the water.  Once they were out of sight, we 
stopped for one of our breaks that we took every 45 to 50 minutes.  As we 
rested, there was almost complete silence.  All we could hear were the 
Dolphins splashing into the water.  Yet, they were too far away to see.

The four of us arrived at Two Harbors at 11:45am, just six hours after 
launching.  We set up camp at Two Harbors Campground, which is about a 
quarter mile from the town, if you can call it that.  In town there is a bar, 
restaurant and grocery store.  The campsite runs from just above the beach 
and up a hill.  The best sites are numbers one through three, and we stayed 
at number three.  These sites are on top of a 20 foot bluff overlooking the 
harbor.  Reservations for the campground can be made by calling 
1-800-322-3434.

After setting up camp, Jake and Dave went into town, and Jim and I paddled 
two miles west to Howland's Landing.  Along the way, we trolled lures for 
fishing, and I caught and released a 14 inch calico bass just outside a kelp 
bed.  After getting back to Two Harbors, we drank cold beer in town.

On Friday, Jake and Dave paddled west three miles to Arrow Point.  Jim and I 
kayak fished at Bird Rock and Ship Rock, which are just outside Two Harbors.  
In a ten minute period on the edge of the kelp bed on the south side of Ship 
Rock, I caught and released three large calico bass on a swim bait lure.  
They were about 18, 16 and 15 inches long.  I never caught so many quality 
calicos in so short a time.  We left the rocks and paddled seven miles to the 
west end of the island.  Along the way we trolled lures.  I didn't catch any 
more fish, but Jim caught and released a 14 inch calico bass and a mackerel.  
We also stopped on a beach along the way to eat delicious MRE's for lunch.  
The two of us peaked around the West End and saw Eagle Rock.  While we were 
there, another large school of jumping dolphins entertained us.  On the 
paddle back, we had following seas, and we had fun surfing many of the 
steeper waves.  Back in town that evening, we ate hot pizza from the 
restaurant and drank cold beer.

The four of us decided to take it easy on Saturday in preparation for the 
crossing back on Sunday.  Jake and Dave headed east a ways and found a cave 
at Blue Cavern Point.  The cave can be paddled through, but only at high 
tide.  They were there at low tide.  Jim and I fished at the rocks.  Jim 
caught and released two calico bass between the rocks.  They were 18 and 17 
inches long.  I caught and released a small rock fish in about 100 feet of 
water just off the southwest side of Ship Rock.  I left there when my peace 
and quiet was interrupted by the arrival of two sport diving boats.  For 
lunch we ate juicy hamburgers and hot french fries at the restaurant.  We 
washed them down with cold soda.

After lunch, Jim did some more fishing.  Jake and I headed back to the cave 
at high tide.  Along the way, we hugged the coast, paddling in water as 
shallow as possible to enjoy viewing the rocks and plants just under the 
clear water.  The cave was about 50 yards long and had an entrance and an 
exit.  Passing through it was fun, and after a couple of times we headed 
back. 

Coming back from the cave, I saw three children being blown out to sea in the 
type of inflatable raft you can buy at a discount store.  They had paddles 
but weren't able to make any headway against the wind.  No PFD's were on 
board the raft.  I ended up towing them a quarter mile back to the beach.  
The children and their parents thanked me, but I don't think they appreciated 
the danger they were in.  I didn't bother to lecture them.

On Sunday the four of us woke up at 4:30am.  We ate, broke camp and were on 
the water by 5:45am.  Without land in site, we followed a bearing of 20 
degrees magnetic.  During the first half of the crossing back, we had mostly 
glassy conditions, and a moderate swell was quartering us from our left rear. 
 During the second half, wind started to blow in the opposite direction of 
the swell, which created choppy conditions.  It was actually nice to have 
rougher conditions, because I felt guilty having such an easy crossing over 
to the island.  We lost site of Catalina at 8:30am, and we gained site of the 
mainland at 9:30am.

The mistake I made on this trip was not looking back at the mainland as we 
left Thursday.  I should have done it to memorize the landmarks for the 
crossing back.  For both crossings, my navigational strategy was to follow a 
straight bearing without bothering to ferry unless we had something obvious 
pushing us off course, such as a strong wind.  I figured that with a forecast 
of ten miles of visibility, being a little off course a while wouldn't hurt, 
because when we sited land, we could correct.  It worked fine going to 
Catalina, because the Isthmus is a huge notch that can be seen easily from a 
long distance.  Once we saw it, we changed our bearing from 200 degrees to 
210 to head straight for it.

However, when we saw the mainland on Sunday, we could see the Palos Verdes 
Peninsula, but because of the distance we were from it, we weren't sure where 
Cabrillo Beach was at on it.  The other three weren't sure but thought that a 
particular bump on the horizon was Cabrillo Beach.  That bump was 
significantly to the right of our bearing.  They wanted to head for it.  I 
had been the one navigating with the compass, and I had been working hard to 
keep us following the 20 degree bearing.  I told them that since we didn't 
know if the bump was Cabrillo, we should trust the compass and stay on the 
bearing, until we were closer to shore and could recognize some landmarks.  I 
felt it was more conservative to follow the compass rather than chase 
landmarks we weren't sure about.

I had a GPS on deck that I could have easily turned on and used to resolved 
the whole thing, but I would rather make a recoverable mistake with a compass 
than use a GPS.  To me the GPS is only a back up for safety.

Jim decided to follow the navigator.  Jake and Dave headed for the bump.  I 
was angry the group divided, and it was the low point in the trip.

As Jim and I followed the compass, landmarks began to appear.  We recognized 
the light tower at the harbor entrance, which confirmed that the bump was 
Cabrillo.  Jim and I changed course towards Cabrillo, and the two groups met 
up again on the water.

The other three had been right about the bump.  I was two and a half miles 
off course, but I still think it was best to trust the compass rather than to 
chase landmarks that we weren't sure about.  Again, my mistake was not 
checking landmarks as we paddled away from Cabrillo on Thursday.

A few miles off the mainland coast, Dave raced ahead of the group.  During 
the crossing, Jake was having to be careful with his injured forearm and 
wrist.  He didn't know how, but sometime during the trip he strained himself, 
and his forearm was swollen.  Remarkably, he was able to maintain a good 
touring pace the whole twenty miles back, and he didn't slow us down one bit.

Jim, Jake and I landed at 11:45am, making for a six hour crossing both ways.  
While we unpacked our kayaks, Dave gave us a hard time about landing so long 
after him.  As Dave went up the hill to get his truck, Jake found Dave's hat 
washing up in the small two foot surf.  We didn't ask.

Duane Strosaker
Irvine, California

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From: Albert Wang <awang2_at_san.rr.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Successful Catalina Crossings
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 11:48:49 -0700
I guess my original message got stripped of it's attached file for some of
you...
Here is the text.

Catalina Training

By Albert Wang
Quote whatever you want. It's late and this really isn't all that
interesting.

Since moving down to SoCal a little over a year ago, I have rotated thru a
few sports. Lately, kayaking, has consumed much of my time. I haven't really
kayaked that long, but with all that training for the Bay2Bay, polo,
rolling, and concerts, my feet were getting wet an average of over 6 days
per week. BTW, Chris S. and I managed to have the 2nd fastest kayak on the
20 miler in the Bay2Bay. Not bad for a first timer. Since the race, it's
been down to  4x a week. My old body can't take it anymore and my back is
all screwed up with a few strained muscles and knots that feel like golf
balls.

Back to my story. Paddling to Catalina has recently been one of my kayaking dreams. I've only talked about it with the Tuesday Nite group in SD. I've
never been to Catalina at all. The thought of actually paddling there really
intrigues me. I believe my tenative  date for the crossing will be in
September. Of course, the macho guys in the SD Tuesday nite group want to do
the crossing in a storm because they are "bored" with the calm conditions.
So part of all this paddling recently has been to get ready for the longer
distances. I admit my skills are relatively limited. I only learned how to
roll last month. I've learned how to go fast tho. A little training, some
studying, and time on the water gets you a long ways.

Anyway (as I sip my Sapphire-up straight from the freezer) I am dreaming of
the Catalina crossing with its famed currents, distance, sharks, and other
hazards. Recently, local kayakers have participated in a Catalina crossing.
Trip reports are always nice to read as there is much to be learned and of
course the entertainment value.    :)

A while back, I plotted a strategy to conquer the Catalina  crossing. A
"friend" told me there is a three part strategy to prepare for this. Throw
money at the equipment (the Dennis Conner strategy), paddle in the ocean and
paddle around an island. Well, I've thrown more money into kayaking than I
wanted to, paddled enuf in the ocean surfing and chasing whales but haven't
done much of the Island thing.

Well the closest island that I can circumnavigate is Vacation Island in
Mission Bay. What better way to train for an island circumnavigation than an
island circumnavigation.  I ditched my job duties and headed for Mission
bay at 5 am to meet a friend at Bahia Point for the crossing to the Bare
Foot Bar. Neither of us was able to get any sleep the evening before and we
were so pumped up about the trip that sleeping was impossible. It took us 4
hours to rig our boats with sails, GPS, compass, food, radios, sand our
boats, etc,.

While we were "preparing" we met  two young boys who were unloading their
boats. The boy with the carbon fiber K1 with wing paddles, I will refer to
this person as the Young Kayaker (or YK) as I have some unflattering
opinions and observations about him. The other young kayaker was a little
older, about 13 and I will refer to him as YK2..  Initially I was hesitant
to participate this crossing with them, because I had been on two previous
paddles with YK and  YK2 shortly after each paddle he published articles on
various internet bulletin board sites that were very critical of everyone
else involved and very self serving for themselves.  Overall I felt that I
could put up with minor inconveniences for the security of a larger group
crossing.  YK assured us that he had an excellent compass and a GPS unit. I
have my own submersible VHF radio so I felt we were covered.  I contacted my
paddle buddy, Jay, and he was as ready as I was for the trip.  We're ready,
so let's launch!

The crossing isn't all that exciting. It's about a half a mile to the
island. Jay and I almost came to blows with YK and YK2 deciding on the best
route during max ebb. We made it over arguing the whole way. I should  have
looked at my landmarks while heading over for the trip back. My mistake.

By the time we got to the Bare Foot bar it was lunch time. We chowed down,
drank (water in their case) and got ready to go back . After all the beers
Jay and I had, we had a hard time figuring how to get back. We trusted all
our electronics to get us home safely. YK and YK2, who only drank water,
were whining, something about Jay and I being incompetent kayakers, etc. I
told them to shut-up and I would buy  them an ice cream when we got back.
Well they decided to put it in gear and paddle back fast in their own
direction. This put us in danger as we split up and were almost hit by
powerboats trying to avoid a long train of kayakers. Oh well youth.

We caught back up to them as we approached the shore. I was so pissed at
them that I pushed them over. They had to swim to shore. Serves them right.
I hate kids. Lesson learned: Don' t paddle with babies.

This trip was enjoyable and I would do it again, without YK and YK2. I will
certainly not invite YK and YK2 on my Catalina trip. I don't want to be put
at risk, and listen to all that whining. It seems like there are bigger
hazards than the currents, winds, storms and sharks on the Catalina crossing

It's getting late, I've run out of Saphire and I still have to make the
Catalina crossing. Sorry to utilize all your bandwidth, but I was "inspired". 
It looks like the ocean isn't big enuf for all of us

Just thought I'd throw my kayak into the "pissing pond".

Live long and paddle. See you on the water.

albert




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From: <ssives_at_erols.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Successful Catalina Crossings
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 22:18:33 -0400
Albert, let me get this straight ...  you drank alot of beer while
only half way through a trip;  you failed to even watch your landmarks
while conducting a circumvation (geez it was only half a mile away - how
many land marks did you need?);  you relied on two boys for directions,
and then you pushed tipped their kayaks over?

  And you don't want to paddle with them?  I'm not sure of your age, but
you seem old enough to know better on all accounts.  First and foremost,
I NEVER paddle or swim after drinking alcohol.  I'm not preaching
against beer, but you need to use common sense.  As a former lifeguard
I've seen way too many problems and near drownings caused by alcohol
use.  How many beers did you have?  No wonder you almost got lost coming
back! Also, alcohol dehydrates your body.

   As a final point, there's nothing funny about being a bully and
pushing two little kids' boat over.  Just how old are you?  I've noticed
that bullies always like to do things like this to those smaller than
themselves.  Would you have tried pushing a grown man's boat over?  And
what if one of the kids had drown?

   I'm sorry if I seem a bit overly critical.  But folks need to act
responsibly on the water.  Try drinking and paddling on the Catalina
trip and we may be reading your obituary. 

  - Scott Ives

Albert Wang wrote:
> 
> 
> While we were "preparing" we met  two young boys who were unloading their boats. The boy with the carbon fiber K1 with wing paddles, I will refer to this person as the Young Kayaker (or YK) as I have some unflattering opinions and observations about him. The other young kayaker was a little older, about 13 and I will refer to him as YK2... 
> The crossing isn't all that exciting. It's about a half a mile to the
> island. Jay and I almost came to blows with YK and YK2 deciding on the best route during max ebb. We made it over arguing the whole way. I should  have looked at my landmarks while heading over for the trip back. My mistake.
> 
> By the time we got to the Bare Foot bar it was lunch time. We chowed down, drank (water in their case) and got ready to go back . After all the beers Jay and I had, we had a hard time figuring how to get back. We trusted all our electronics to get us home safely. YK and YK2, who only drank water, were whining, something about Jay and I being incompetent kayakers, etc. I told them to shut-up and I would buy  them an ice cream when we got back. Well they decided to put it in gear and paddle back fast in their own direction. This put us in danger as we split up and were almost hit by powerboats trying to avoid a long train of kayakers. Oh well youth.
> 
> We caught back up to them as we approached the shore. I was so pissed at them that I pushed them over. They had to swim to shore. Serves them right. I hate kids. Lesson learned: Don' t paddle with babies.
> 
> This trip was enjoyable and I would do it again, without YK and YK2. I will certainly not invite YK and YK2 on my Catalina trip. I don't want to be put at risk, and listen to all that whining. It seems like there are bigger hazards than the currents, winds, storms and sharks on the Catalina crossing
> 
> It's getting late, I've run out of Saphire and I still have to make the Catalina crossing. Sorry to utilize all your bandwidth, but I was "inspired".
> It looks like the ocean isn't big enuf for all of us
> 
> Just thought I'd throw my kayak into the "pissing pond".
> 
>
> albert
>
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From: <Sandykayak_at_aol.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Successful Catalina Crossings
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 09:17:43 EDT
Hear, Hear!  (British expression)

Well said, Scott, I was thinking the same.

Sandy Kramer
Miami, FL
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From: Albert Wang <awang2_at_san.rr.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Successful Catalina Crossings
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 11:41:02 -0700
After mountains of supportive emails,flames have been redirected towards
me...


>On Jun 26, 11:19, DMurray911_at_aol.com wrote:
>} Subject: [Paddlewise] Catalina, etc.
>> Howdy
>> Just signed on to Paddlewise. Wow! Have to get a larger mailbox.
>> First, Many sincere thanks to Albert Wang for his deserved attitude
>> adjustment directed to me. I deserved it, and besides his story is much
>> better!
>> Secondly, my apologies to all that had to tolerate me exercising my
>> Constitutional right to make a fool of myself in public. I know better
and
>> will not allow it to happen in the future.
>> Happy Paddles, Dave Murray


[Bob Myers wrote:]

>Just to explain a little bit to the Paddlewise subscribers who may be
>a little confused by what's going on here, Dave Murray sent in his
>version of the Catalina crossing story recently posted by Duane
>Strosaker. Dave replied to Duane's story with the same list of
>recipients, so it was submitted to Paddlewise even though he wasn't
>subscribed to the list.
>
>Dave's story never made it to Paddlewise due to a number
>of problems - the large recipient list, Dave's non-member status,
>and even more than that, the bulk of Dave's story was a rich text
>format (RTF) attachment that was filtered by our demime filters.
>
>Albert Wang's message was a very funny parody of Dave's story.
>
>I'll bet Albert is a really great guy to paddle with!
>
>--
>Bob Myers                          InteleNet Communications, Inc.



I may not be so great to paddle with...
A.
 [Paddlewise]
Date: Saturday, June 26, 1999 7:52 PM
Subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Successful Catalina Crossings
>Albert, let me get this straight ...  you drank alot of beer while
>only half way through a trip;  you failed to even watch your landmarks
>while conducting a circumvation (geez it was only half a mile away - how
>many land marks did you need?);  you relied on two boys for directions,
>and then you pushed tipped their kayaks over?
>
>  And you don't want to paddle with them?  I'm not sure of your age, but
>you seem old enough to know better on all accounts.  First and foremost,
>I NEVER paddle or swim after drinking alcohol.  I'm not preaching
>against beer, but you need to use common sense.  As a former lifeguard
>I've seen way too many problems and near drownings caused by alcohol
>use.  How many beers did you have?  No wonder you almost got lost coming
>back! Also, alcohol dehydrates your body.
>
>   As a final point, there's nothing funny about being a bully and
>pushing two little kids' boat over.  Just how old are you?  I've noticed
>that bullies always like to do things like this to those smaller than
>themselves.  Would you have tried pushing a grown man's boat over?  And
>what if one of the kids had drown?
>

I have learned empirically that pushing a grown man's boat over is *NOT* a
good idea. I should probably stick to those younger and smaller.
A.

>   I'm sorry if I seem a bit overly critical.  But folks need to act
>responsibly on the water.  Try drinking and paddling on the Catalina
>trip and we may be reading your obituary.
>
>  - Scott Ives

Put that way, you make me sound just plain stupid... :)
A.

[Paddlewise]
Date: Sunday, June 27, 1999 6:15 AM
Subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Successful Catalina Crossings
>Hear, Hear!  (British expression)
>
>Well said, Scott, I was thinking the same.
>
>Sandy Kramer


Now I feel bad... :(

After apologies and all...

Lesson learned: don't group reply when there are multiple mail lists that
you don't belong too. I did not look carefully. Parallel threads get started
and discontinuous stories are propagated. Attachments stripped from messages
can wreak havoc on subsequent replies in the thread.

If it will make anybody feel better I can paint my kayak flourescent pink so
that I can easily be spotted and avoided. Or I can trade my kayaks for a jet
ski.

I seem to recall this all got started because of some navigational
difficulties. I have come up with a solution!!!

My new soon-to-be-patented kayak navigational device is called "Line2Land"
TM. It's a rather ingenious device consisting of 500 yds of monofilament
line neatly coiled arount a precision cut and sanded piece of wood (~1.5" x
3.5" x 20.5"). To use, just tie one end around an object on land and merrily
paddle away. When it is time to return, it's as easy as following the line
back! Use it once or rewind for multiple uses. The beauty is that you  can
use multiple linkable Line2Lands for longer trips. Line2Land has joined the
compass, sextant, GPS, and stars as primary sea navigational devices.

Because I feel so bad, I'm selling them to you guys who have tolerated this
thread for only $249/ea!!! That's a small price to pay for primary or
back-up navigation ... and more importantly paddling buddies.

WARNING: Beta-testing has shown that tying the Line2Land to movable objects
such as boats, bikes, cars, seagulls, seals, etc., can render the Line2Land
useless.

...It seems that there is a slight blip in subscription this weekend for the
Paddlewise list from the SoCal area. I know i account for one.

BTW, I'm looking for new paddling buddies. My former ones got tired of
getting wet.

Live long and paddle,

Albert Wang


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From: Elaine Harmon <eharmon_at_cs.miami.edu>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Successful Catalina Crossings
Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 01:01:16 -0400 (EDT)
On Sun, 27 Jun 1999, Albert Wang wrote:

> I seem to recall this all got started because of some navigational
> difficulties. I have come up with a solution!!!
> 
> My new soon-to-be-patented kayak navigational device is called "Line2Land"
> TM. It's a rather ingenious device consisting of 500 yds of monofilament
> line neatly coiled arount a precision cut and sanded piece of wood (~1.5" x
> 3.5" x 20.5"). To use, just tie one end around an object on land and merrily
> paddle away. When it is time to return, it's as easy as following the line
> back! Use it once or rewind for multiple uses. The beauty is that you  can
> use multiple linkable Line2Lands for longer trips. Line2Land has joined the
> compass, sextant, GPS, and stars as primary sea navigational devices.

As a patent lawyer and caver, I must regretfully inform you that it's not
a new idea.

> BTW, I'm looking for new paddling buddies. My former ones got tired of
> getting wet.

I agree with someone else who said you must be a hoot to paddle with! And
I like to be wet. My place or yours? Slainte! elaine


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From: <Kayak4evr_at_aol.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Successful Catalina Crossings
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 10:28:31 EDT
I dont need a "line to land" device Albert, I find the bread chunks work fine.
Besides the bread chunks act as chum too and I catch lots of fish.

 Jerry Esten

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