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From: Barbara Kossy <bkossy_at_igc.org>
subject: [Paddlewise] Fiberglass First
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 10:47:06
However, when you drill a hole in a fiberglass boat, and decide it's in the
wrong place, it's relatively easy to fix it. OK, so it may not look pretty,
but it's fixed. I vote for fiberglass for a first sea kayak. I kept my
first boat, fiberglass for four years. I grew into it. It was easy to sell
for a good price. And if you like the boat enough to keep it, it makes a
great second boat for guests. One time I saw an older fellow with a lovely
shiny yellow sea kayak, and kind I'd never seen. I asked if it was new.
"No," he said, "I've had it for 20 years." That will never happen with a
plastic boat. I guess a downside of fiberglass is that it's impossible to
recycle, and now they can make kayaks out of old milk jugs, and recycle the
old kayaks into new kayaks. 
Barbara
where it's still 60 degrees and foggy
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At 12:33 PM 6/22/99 -0500, you wrote:
>One thing about the plastic boat for a first purchase, is that you may find 
>that you have less inhibition about drilling holes in it for placing
whatever 
>fixtures you want available.   After a few years of paddling it, you will
know 
>what you want, and where you want it.  Then you get the fiberglass boat, 
>and mount your gizmos with confidence knowing you won't regret the 
>placement of rod holders, sonar mounts, lights, cleats, compass, etc.
>
>On my own plastic boat, I now know that my compass is to close, and my 
>sonar mount is just a little to far forward, I know that I want both rod 
>holders to be of a different type than my first; I know that I need to use 
>brass screws, and large brass washers as backing.  I know that a white all-
>around light needs to be taller than the paddler in order to be effective,
thus 
>demanding a strenthened mount if such a light is desired.  I know that 
>snag free rigging needs to be in place for bow and stern anchor points.   
>When I do finally purchase that custom Falcon 18 or Mariner II; I'll be able 
>to tell the maker exactly what I want, and why I want it just that way.
>
>
>Richard Walker
>Houston, TX
>http://www.neosoft.com/~rww/kayak_log.html
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From: John Winters <735769_at_ican.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Fiberglass First
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 19:07:18 -0400
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From: Barbara Kossy <bkossy_at_igc.org>
To: PaddleWise_at_lists.intelenet.net <PaddleWise_at_lists.intelenet.net>
Date: June 22, 1999 2:38 PM
Subject: [Paddlewise] Fiberglass First


(SNIP)


> I guess a downside of fiberglass is that it's impossible to
>recycle, and now they can make kayaks out of old milk jugs, and recycle
the
>old kayaks into new kayaks.


Actually a company now offers a device that can chop up your glass boat and
pulverize it into a filler that they can re-use in fiberglass laminates.
They had not much luck with Kevlar and Spectra though but they plan to work
on it.

It didn't seem economically practical at this point but with time, who
knows.

Cheers,
John Winters
Redwing Designs
Specialists in Human Powered Watercraft
http://home.ican.net/~735769/

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From: Matt Broze <mkayaks_at_oz.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Fiberglass First
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 00:29:46 -0700
-----Original Message-----
From: John Winters <735769_at_ican.net>
To: PaddleWise_at_lists.intelenet.net <PaddleWise_at_lists.intelenet.net>
Date: Tuesday, June 22, 1999 4:52 PM
Subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Fiberglass First


>-----Original Message-----
>From: Barbara Kossy <bkossy_at_igc.org>
>To: PaddleWise_at_lists.intelenet.net <PaddleWise_at_lists.intelenet.net>
>Date: June 22, 1999 2:38 PM
>Subject: [Paddlewise] Fiberglass First
>
>
>(SNIP)
>
>
>> I guess a downside of fiberglass is that it's impossible to
>>recycle, and now they can make kayaks out of old milk jugs, and recycle
>the
>>old kayaks into new kayaks.
>
>
>Actually a company now offers a device that can chop up your glass boat and
>pulverize it into a filler that they can re-use in fiberglass laminates.
>They had not much luck with Kevlar and Spectra though but they plan to work
>on it.
>
>It didn't seem economically practical at this point but with time, who
>knows.
>
>Cheers,
>John Winters
>Redwing Designs
>Specialists in Human Powered Watercraft
>http://home.ican.net/~735769/


It is extemely rare that a fiberglass kayak would need to be recycled except
maybe to the next owner. Maybe some should be ground up but few ever see the
landfill.
Matt Broze

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From: Barbara Kossy <bkossy_at_igc.org>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Fiberglass First
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 06:58:33
I'll venture there are some good stories out there about kayaks so damanged
they were unsalvageable.....
Barbara
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>
>It is extemely rare that a fiberglass kayak would need to be recycled except
>maybe to the next owner. Maybe some should be ground up but few ever see the
>landfill.
>Matt Broze
>

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