On Fri, 9 Jul 1999 Tomckayak_at_aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 7/9/99 11:02:42 AM Pacific Daylight Time, > CHUCK_at_multitech.com writes: > > << I also suspect that some ACA instructors who had learned as much as > possible about Greenland technique on their own became alarmed at the > number of paddlers who were using poor or inappropriate technique with > their Greenland paddles, >> > > ACA certif. is all about "venders" covering their ASSets. Its all about > insurance. i am glad i became a "certified" ACA instructor, i have had many good experiences about it... i agree with steve alder [did i get that right], that many instructors are great... i know very few bad instructors... i should qualify that by saying this is in the ww canoe regime, not sk/wwk. i have seen the program and philosophy change during my years as an instructor. you have to recertify each four years, and teach during that time as well. i saw 2 big changes during just the last 4 year period [92-96]. the top teachers work with each other, and listen intently to what students discuss, and they work as instructor trainers, imparting their philoshy on their students. i have not seen the ACA as a stagnant entity. their gathering of top rated paddlers to compete in the open canoe slalom nationals is happening a little more than 15 hours from now. they have been impressive to watch training, yet i sure haven't seen the "egos" associated with many other top athletes... insurance is truely a benefit. and i'd bet each and every student thought so to, even though i never used it [ie, made a claim]. i would never have taught in this litigous [sp?] society. not something as "dangerous" as river canoeing. while teaching anythingis, and always has been my favorite thing to do, i wouldn't do this if i were truely risking everything i've worked all my life for [yeah, i know, drving down the road is a crap shoot, but i have insurance on my car too]. i tried getting insurance on my own, as a guide/outfitter - there was some chance, not to teach ... and the first question is "are you a certified instructor" ... not that "state farm/allstate/etc" would probably even have a clue as to "who would do the certifying?" --- i don't even want to get into the "divers must be certified to fill their tanks" mode ... i don't teach for the money ... 75% of my classes have been to non-profit groups, and fees dropped/reduced/etc ... but even if i charged full price for every class and every student, i wouldn't have recovered my cost to be certified, let alone the expenses involved in teaching [replacing damaged gear after every class gets pretty expensive, no matter how careful people are] which leads this long winded post to its conclusion ... in my humble opion there should be _some_ type of certification available from some form of overseeing body, from a "consistancy of basic skills" for an instructor ... is the ACA the right body for this? i don't know, who are my other choices?? who certifies the instructors [IT or instructor trainer]. if they are going to call it "greenland" then it better be "greenland" so if someone goes there, the natives won't fall out of their boats laughing their asses off [sorry]. i have to agree that the ACA is using the name as a marketing ploy. they way they have expanded into sea kayaking [coastal?] and white water kayaking. heck, until just a few years ago, they _only_ had white water canoeing as a choice, you couldn't be "certified" unless you were certified in the whitewater disipline, even if all you wanted to do was teach touring... "sorry --- no hit -n- switch" so even though it says "Canoe" they want to be the "boating" body... sorry ACA, i think you're out of line, just call it something else, because it isn't what you represent it to be. mark ACA Tandem Canoe Instructor #------canoeist[at]netbox[dot]com-------------------------------------- mark zen o, o__ o_/| o_. po box 474 </ [\/ [\_| [\_\ ft. lupton, co 80621-0474 (`-/-------/----') (`----|-------\-') #~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~_at_~~~~~~~_at_~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~_at_~~~~~~~~_at_~~~~~ http://www.diac.com/~zen/paddler [index of Paddling websites I manage] Rocky Mtn Sea Kayak Club, Colorado River Flows, Poudre Paddlers The Colorado Paddlers' Resource, Rocky Mtn Canoe Club Trip Page -- Computers are useless. They can only give you answers. --Pablo Picasso *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************Received on Fri Jul 09 1999 - 17:42:01 PDT
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