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From: Dave Uebele <daveu_at_sptddog.com>
subject: [Paddlewise] exercises for rolling
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 05:18:20 -0700
Monday night I took a class in rolling a kayak.
I learned quite a bit, and had a couple of moments where
it all came together while I still had the paddle float
attached to the end of the paddle.  I have some ideas
what I'm still doing wrong (the head wants to come out of the
water first).

Anyway, after 2 hours in the pool trying rolls, and doing a lot
or wet exits as well, I'm really sore.  Once I can move again
without the aid of ibuprofen, are there exercises I can
do to strengthen the waist and hip area?  That seems to
be where most of the soreness is.  I know, get back out there
and practice rolling some more, but for those times when I can't
get on the water to practice, what sorts of exercises will help
prevent this sort of sore muscles in the future?

thanks
dave
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From: Steve Cramer <cramer_at_coe.uga.edu>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] exercises for rolling
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 11:26:30 -0400
Dave Uebele wrote:
> 
> Monday night I took a class in rolling a kayak.
> I learned quite a bit, and had a couple of moments where
> it all came together while I still had the paddle float
> attached to the end of the paddle.  I have some ideas
> what I'm still doing wrong (the head wants to come out of the
> water first).

It's that irrational desire to breathe that we mammals are cursed with;
got to get over it. Also, if you really want to learn to roll, get rid
of the paddle float. All that buoyancy trains you to get yourself up by
pulling on the paddle. It'll be a hard habit to break. Instead, hipsnap
hipsnap hipsnap....
> 
> Anyway, after 2 hours in the pool trying rolls, and doing a lot
> or wet exits as well, I'm really sore.  Once I can move again
> without the aid of ibuprofen, are there exercises I can
> do to strengthen the waist and hip area?  
> 
First, stretch before you get into the boat. Big wide side to side bends
like the C-to-C motion. Also torso rotation stretches. To be sure you're
actually stretching your torso and not your legs, do them sitting down.

For exercises, try crunches to the side: on your back, right ankle
crossed over the opposite knee, crunch to the right. Repeat to the left.
Work up to 2 sets of 25 each side 3-4 times a week. Straight up crunches
wouldn't hurt, either, to help your tuck.

Steve 
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From: Matt Broze <mkayaks_at_oz.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] exercises for rolling
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 21:51:36 -0700
-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Cramer <cramer_at_coe.uga.edu>
To: Dave Uebele <daveu_at_sptddog.com>


>Dave Uebele wrote:
>>
>> Monday night I took a class in rolling a kayak.
>> I learned quite a bit, and had a couple of moments where
>> it all came together while I still had the paddle float
>> attached to the end of the paddle.  I have some ideas
>> what I'm still doing wrong (the head wants to come out of the
>> water first).
>
>It's that irrational desire to breathe that we mammals are cursed with;
>got to get over it. Also, if you really want to learn to roll, get rid
>of the paddle float. All that buoyancy trains you to get yourself up by
>pulling on the paddle. It'll be a hard habit to break. Instead, hipsnap
>hipsnap hipsnap....

I have found using a flat foam float over the paddle blade (or a strapped on
pool "belly board") to be a very effective aid to rolling. It lets you
practice success and in slow motion (rather than practice failure) .
Practice until you can roll up slowly and effortlessly and then speed up the
motions you have learned and try a few rolls without the float. If you come
close keep at it, if not go back to the float on the paddle and practice
rolling some more with it. Be concious of muscling up and lifting your head
too soon. It is a great help to have an experienced roller around to refine
your technique before removing the float but some have learned to roll on
their own this way. An inflatable float doesn't work nearly as well as a
flat foam one for this because the roundness won't plane and the round
floats short waterline "hull speed" slows the sweep.


Matt Broze
http://www.marinerkayaks.com


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From: Dave Williams <paddler_at_loxinfo.co.th>
subject: [Paddlewise] Off topic but interesting
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 19:26:46 +0700
Hi,

Are there any other bird nerds out there?  I'm one.  I've got an interesting
thing happening here with some Edible-nest swifts.  I won't put it here, but
anyone interested in birds doing what the books say they're not supposed to
do can email me for the details.

Cheers,
Dave the bird nerd

Dave Williams
paddler_at_loxinfo.co.th
http://paddleasia.com
Phuket, Thailand

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