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From: Rev. Bob Carter <revkayak_at_ptialaska.net>
subject: [Paddlewise] Going solo
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 23:10:46 -0800
In a couple of days I'll be  taking off on my yearly two week solo trip here
in Southeast Alaska. Though many people question my sanity, I have my reasons
for going solo.


Admittedly some reasons are selfish....I can go my own speed and camp when and
where I want to.


The other reasons are I hope more profound...The need for solitude (my job is
people intensive), quiet for life reflection and wilderness for spiritual
renewal.


I would be interested in hearing the reflections of others who go it alone
what their motivations are.


Bob,Sitka Alaska





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From: asaarto <asaarto_at_lpt.fi>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Going solo
Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 14:00:26 +0300
> I would be interested in hearing the reflections of others who go it alone
> what their motivations are.

Ahh, well...spiritual renewal.. yes. Silence: yes. During the 
wintertime I have to work with too many people and unfortunately I 
am not always fond of them all. So with all that solitude I am trying 
to restore my faith in people, etc.

My experiences about kayaking solo last 4 years have also been 
teaching me that I better choose  c a r e f u l l y  with whom and 
what kind of people I am paddling - besides my SO. Less risk, 
responsibility and general mess.

The sad thing about this all is that the last July was extraordinarily 
nice, kayaking around the SW Archipelago National Park of 
Finland with 6 people from local club. They were nice. Might have 
missed something during these years ;-)

Yup.

Ari - Finland, Europe
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From: Patrick Maun <pmaun_at_bitstream.net>
subject: [Paddlewise] Chicago Paddling
Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 14:06:08 -0500
Hello all!

I may be working in Chicago over the next month and would really like 
to get out and paddle Lake Michigan while there. The one catch is 
that I won't have any gear with me except what fits on my suitcase, 
ie wetsuits, PFD type stuff. I also won't have a car. I'd love to 
hook up with some Paddlewisers, anyone interested or know of 
on-the-water rental places?

-Patrick
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From: David Seng <David_at_wainet.com>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Chicago Paddling
Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 11:55:30 -0800
  I was just talking with my dad the  other night (he lives directly across
Lake Michigan over in St. Joseph MI) and he was telling me that the water
temperature in the Lake was 80F.  You might not need the wetsuit.  That's
_extremely_ warm for Lake Michigan!
  I don't recall any on-the-water rental places, but it's been a couple of
years since I was there.  A good local source of info and paddling
connections is The Chicagoland Canoe Base - owned by Ralph Frese.  Ralph's a
crusty old delight and the other folks working at the store are (used to be)
very helpful - they could probably help you hook up with some local
paddlers.

Dave Seng
Juneau, Alaska
(former Chicago resident)

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Patrick Maun [mailto:pmaun_at_bitstream.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 1999 11:06 AM
> To: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net
> Subject: [Paddlewise] Chicago Paddling
> 
> 
> Hello all!
> 
> I may be working in Chicago over the next month and would really like 
> to get out and paddle Lake Michigan while there. The one catch is 
> that I won't have any gear with me except what fits on my suitcase, 
> ie wetsuits, PFD type stuff. I also won't have a car. I'd love to 
> hook up with some Paddlewisers, anyone interested or know of 
> on-the-water rental places?
> 
> -Patrick
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From: bouwmanf <bouwmanf_at_northernlakeservice.com>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Chicago Paddling
Date: Wed, 04 Aug 1999 16:04:02 -0500
http://pages.ripco.com:8080/~jwn//

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From: Chuck Holst <CHUCK_at_multitech.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Chicago Paddling
Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 16:49:38 -0500
Patrick, it doesn't look like you will need a wetsuit anywhere on
Lake Michigan. See http://coastwatch.glerl.noaa.gov/glsea/glsea.gif
and http://chmac2.chem.mtu.edu/KITES/images.html.

For Lake Superior surface temperatures, see
http://www.coastwatch.msu.edu/twosuperiors.html and
http://chmac2.chem.mtu.edu/KITES/images.html, and note how warm it
is in the Apostle Islands!

Chuck Holst

 -----Original Message-----
From: David Seng [mailto:David_at_wainet.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 1999 3:16 PM
To: 'Patrick Maun'; paddlewise
Subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Chicago Paddling


  I was just talking with my dad the  other night (he lives directly   across
Lake Michigan over in St. Joseph MI) and he was telling me that the water
temperature in the Lake was 80F.  You might not need the wetsuit.  That's
_extremely_ warm for Lake Michigan!

<snip>

Dave Seng
Juneau, Alaska
(former Chicago resident)


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From: Erik Sprenne <sprenne_at_netnitco.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Chicago Paddling
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 02:02:37 -0500
Patrick Maun wrote:
> I may be working in Chicago over the next month and would really
like 
> to get out and paddle Lake Michigan while there. The one catch is 
> that I won't have any gear with me except what fits on my suitcase,

> ie wetsuits, PFD type stuff. I also won't have a car. I'd love to 
> hook up with some Paddlewisers, anyone interested or know of 
> on-the-water rental places?

There are two sea kayaking clubs in the Chicago area.   Prairie Coast
Paddlers (no current web site) does Tuesday night trips on the Lake
out of Diversey Harbor (near north side), and the Chicago Area Sea
Kayaking Association   http://members.xoom.com/CASKAinfo/   does
Wednesday evening trips also out of Diversey Harbor.  (see
http://pages.ripco.com:8080/~jwn//diversey.gif   for a map of diversey
harbor - the normal launch spot for Tues/Wed paddles is at the northern end
of the harbor).  

Diversey Harbor connects to the Lincoln Park lagoon, where the Lincoln Park
Boat Club is located.  The LPBC owns a fleet of (mostly plastic) sea
kayaks, and may be willing to entertain a visiting rental. The LPBC is also
the best bet for finding boats close to the lake.  The Chicagoland Canoe
Base (773-777-1489) does rent boats, but I'm not sure if they rent sea
kayaks - and they're a fair distance inland.  Some of their employees are
affiliated with the CASKA group, so it might be possible to arrange a boat
through them.  Some PCP members have extra boats which can be borrowed. 
Email me with dates you will be in town, and I will provide you with more
specific information.

Chicago has a wonderful lakefront park system, and the city skyline is most
impressive when viewed after dark from the lake.  With the
weather as it has been, and the warm lake temps,  a wet suit is not
necessary at this time of year.  We've just gotten out of a heat wave (15
days of 90+ F/32+ C and dew points as high as 81 F/27 C), and now are
enjoying more seasonal
temps.

Erik Sprenne

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From: Philip Torrens <skerries_at_hotmail.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Going solo
Date: Wed, 04 Aug 1999 14:38:38 PDT
Alone at sea

Among the numerous rewards I've found in paddling alone:
The freedom to travel completely at your own pace, neither holding back nor 
being held back by others, and at liberty to change the day's plan 
moment-by-moment when swept away by a whim or a counter-current.
Though you have fewer pairs of eyes to search for wildlife with, the fact 
that you travel mostly without talking means you do not spook animals as you 
approach.
Then there's the fuller satisfaction of completing a challenging trip alone; 
you can be certain it was entirely your own skills and judgement that 
brought you through; there is not the slightest lingering suspicion that you 
used your companions as crutches, even psychological ones.
For me, paddling alone also has rewards I would call spiritual. (As an 
agnostic, I use the term spiritual to refer to the internal life of the mind 
rather than necessarily a personality that survives the destruction of the 
body, but spirituality is nonetheless undeniably important.) I find it 
generally takes a trip of at least several days before the mind habits of 
"civilisation" and society drop temporarily away, so that I can live purely 
in the moment, with what I believe Buddhists call "the chattering monkey" 
part of my mind silenced. At first, my television-addled and 
short-attention-span conditioned mind leaps around searching for 
"stimulation" and instant variety; once I've settled into backcountry mode I 
can watch something which unfolds as leisurely as the languidly rising 
waters replenishing the food stocks of a tidal pool for hours without any 
boredom, and I find it as rich as any human fabricated "entertainment".
Another joy is the freedom to read longer, more demanding books without 
distraction, and to ruminate upon the evening's reading throughout the 
following day, so that you give the author's ideas the attention they 
deserve (but so seldom get in "civilisation").
Philip Torrens
N49°16' W123°06'



>From: "Rev. Bob Carter" <revkayak_at_ptialaska.net>
>To: <paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net>
>Subject: [Paddlewise] Going solo
>Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 23:10:46 -0800
>
>In a couple of days I'll be  taking off on my yearly two week solo trip 
>here
>in Southeast Alaska. Though many people question my sanity, I have my 
>reasons
>for going solo.
>
>
>Admittedly some reasons are selfish....I can go my own speed and camp when 
>and
>where I want to.
>
>
>The other reasons are I hope more profound...The need for solitude (my job 
>is
>people intensive), quiet for life reflection and wilderness for spiritual
>renewal.
>
>
>I would be interested in hearing the reflections of others who go it alone
>what their motivations are.
>
>
>Bob,Sitka Alaska


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From: <gpwecho_at_juno.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Going solo
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 09:51:48 -0500
		<<snip>>
>>
>>I would be interested in hearing the reflections of others who go it 
>alone
>>what their motivations are.
>>
>>
>>Bob,Sitka Alaska


I find that I spend the majority of my time solo because of the HUGE
reduction in "hassle".   Less hassle in safety, gear, logistics,
provisions, etc.   My V-W bus stays packed and I can be gone in about 15
minutes with a stop at a grocery somewhere if I am going alone.   Even
the addition of any/all of my 3 daughters tends to complicate the deal,
though they are welcome and do go with me for long weekend campouts quite
often.  Most of my trips range from regular daytrips up to a 3 day
weekend.    I make a number of group events each year and always enjoy
the camraderie within the larger group dynamics  ...mostly.    I think I
have more "personal satisfaction" from going solo, but I have lots more
"fun"  when a  relatively small group trip goes well.     ....adieu 
.....Peyton  (Louisiana)     
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