I practice this often in the pool and when I am out for a casual paddle with friends. I usually dump via standing in my kayak and pretending I am a taxi driver in Venice - why practice a wet exit? Anyways, while floating with the boat, bow forward, on my left side, I put my left leg in and float on my back. I set the paddle to my right side in the set up position that I was taught - keeping it close. Take some really deep breaths, clear your mind and hold it in. Upside down With my left leg already in the correct spot, I grasp both sides of the cockpit and push in the right foot. Grip the thighbraces tightly, they are what keep you in place. Now concentrate on putting on the sprayskirt quickly. I reach out sideways for the paddle, moving my straight arm from horizontal to vertical, usually catching it somewhere near the elbow. Now, I slide my sweep hand out, check the blade angle and Roll. Remembering - head last. If you miss, it sucks to have to get out gasping. Underwater, this should take you about ten seconds tops. It may seem like forever, but that is why I practice around friends and in a controlled environment. This is a lot of fun if you can do it, but I see little practical application, why not T-X, dump the water and assist climbing in? Phil Huck thekayaker_at_yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
On Mon, 30 Aug 1999, Phil Huck wrote: > I practice this often in the pool and when I am out > for a casual paddle with friends. > I usually dump via standing in my kayak and > pretending I am a taxi driver in Venice - why practice > a wet exit? Uhhh...which thread was this in? I'm getting concerned...e Elaine Harmon - eilidh_at_dc.seflin.org - eharmon_at_cs.miami.edu *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Elaine Harmon wrote: > On Mon, 30 Aug 1999, Phil Huck wrote: > > > I practice this often in the pool and when I am out > > for a casual paddle with friends. > > I usually dump via standing in my kayak and > > pretending I am a taxi driver in Venice - why practice > > a wet exit? > > Uhhh...which thread was this in? I'm getting concerned...e > > Elaine Harmon - eilidh_at_dc.seflin.org - eharmon_at_cs.miami.edu > > Thank you for that one, Elaine. I almost fell out of my chair! Mike (Wiping the Pepsi off my monitor.) -- Paddling along through fog so thick that only one's thoughts are visible, your reverie is abruptly shattered by the ancient cry of a great blue heron as she lifts uncertainly from the brilliant blue of a mussel-shell beach witnessed only by the brooding, wet spruce....your passage home seems as much back through time as it does through space. Mark H Hunt *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
At 01:50 PM 8/30/99 -0700, Phil Huck wrote: > I practice this often in the pool and when I am out >for a casual paddle with friends. > I usually dump via standing in my kayak and >pretending I am a taxi driver in Venice - why practice >a wet exit? > Anyways, while floating with the boat, bow >forward, on my left side, I put my left leg in and >float on my back. I set the paddle to my right side in >the set up position that I was taught - keeping it >close. >Take some really deep breaths, clear your mind and >hold it in. > > Upside down > >With my left leg already in the correct spot, I grasp >both sides of the cockpit and push in the right foot. >Grip the thighbraces tightly, they are what keep you >in place. I assume that this means that you let go of the paddle at this point. I am guessing that in rough seas that it would probably be a good idea to attach a paddle leash. > Now concentrate on putting on the sprayskirt >quickly. Is this really necessary? If the cockpit already has a lot of water in it you're going to have top pump it out anyway once you're upright. I am just wondering how much *more* water the cockpit picks up when you roll. > >I reach out sideways for the paddle, moving my >straight arm from horizontal to vertical, usually >catching it somewhere near the elbow. > Now, I slide my sweep hand out, check the blade >angle and > Roll. Remembering - head last. If you miss, it >sucks to have to get out gasping. > >Underwater, this should take you about ten seconds >tops. It may seem like forever, but that is why I >practice around friends and in a controlled >environment. > This is a lot of fun if you can do it, but I see >little practical application, why not T-X, dump the >water and assist climbing in? The practical application is that if you're paddling alone it might be easier than trying to do a traditional paddlefloat reentry. BTW, the most recent issue of Sea Kayaker has an excellent article on paddlefloat reentry. There is a separate article which demonstrates how to use a paddlefloat to assist in lifting a capsized kayak to remove most of the water from the cockpit. If you *are* paddling with someone else the T-X rescue is probably one of the best ways to get back in your boat. Last weekend I was practicing another technique that I think would be quite useful. It was essentially an assisted eskimo roll. However rather than have your paddling partner present the bow of their boat from a perpendicular position to assist in rolling up the partner presents their paddle. When the person capsizes they slap the sides of the boat to get the partners attention and then moves their hands back and forth along the sides (keeping your hands perpendicular to the hull) to indicate that an assisted rescue is desired. The partner *quickly* paddles up parallel to the capsized kayak and when reaching it lays their paddle on the hull, sliding up until the paddle is placed right into the hands of the person upside down. That person then reaches over and rolls up between the boats using the paddle shaft for assistance. The trick is for the rescuer to try and leave enough room between the boats so that the rescuee doesn't bump their head when rolling up. This is an easy one to practice because you can start by just having your partner lay their paddle just in front of your cockpit so that you can hold onto it before capsizing between the boats, then, with a hip snap, come back up. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
I have been lurking for a while after buying a Folbot and am enjoying the list. It has been about 50 years since I was last in a kayak! I have been reading a lot and have some suggestions for you all to pick holes in before I try them out and drown myself. On capsizing: 1. grab paddle and painter 2. secure paddle under bungee or strap behind seat 3. take an orange garbage bag from pfd, inflate by waving in wind 4. allow a few litres of water to enter bag (for ballast) and tie bag's neck around paddle 5. slide aboard and lean on bag side of boat for stability while bailing or pumping Incidentally (and I don't have shares in orange garbage bags!), a large one would be helpful to stave off heat loss if you climbed in it and kept another to attract attention, while the easy inflation by waving and then tying off with an elastic band might make for quick therefore readily used extra flotation in bow and stern. I have inflatable buoyancy bags but get pop-eyed blowing them up! What have I overlooked? None of this is new but I haven't seen all of these ideas put together. On another thread - a bag tied on a paddle should make the boat stable enough for emergency poop/pee without the need for rafting up with embarrassed singers of the opposite sex! I look forward to your critique and flames if called for. I'm fireproof. -- Chimo_____________________________________ ) ( John Bartlett capricornis anciensis 0 0 __________________________________________ " {~} If you live in Victoria and want to swap houses anywhere in the world, see: http://www.camosun.bc.ca/~bartlett/swappage1.htm If you live elswhere in the world and might want to swap with me, see: http://www.camosun.bc.ca/~bartlett/houseswap.htm *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
In a message dated 8/31/99 11:08:51 AM Eastern Daylight Time, bartlett_at_camosun.bc.ca writes: << capricornis anciensis >> I guess that means "old fart" with an Xmas/New Year birthday ?? Can't wait to read all the responses to this one! Sandy Kramer *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
On Tue, 31 Aug 1999 Sandykayak_at_aol.com wrote: > << capricornis anciensis >> > I guess that means "old fart" with an Xmas/New Year birthday ?? "Old goat". Just our type, Sandy! e Elaine Harmon - eilidh_at_dc.seflin.org - eharmon_at_cs.miami.edu *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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