Re: [Paddlewise] Fore and aft trim

John wrote in his first post:
"For example, shifting weight may not prove necessary in boats with rudders
or drop down skegs that allow you to modify the relative turning moments
with the devices."

 Since poor loading can induce weatherhelm and since you talked of
correcting weatherhelm by the use of a rudder or drop down skeg rather than
shifting weight (which implies that there was some weight--or load--in the
kayak that you could shift to lessen the weatherhelm) it would seem to
follow that you were also implying a rudder might be able to compensate for
poor loading that may have caused the weatherhelm in the kayak in the first
place.
Since I am most familiar with kayaks that don't weathercock unless you load
them poorly I may have not been considering the fact that most kayaks
weathercock without weight in them and so was only considering shifting the
weight that was causing the problem rather than realizing the problem you
were talking about correcting was with the boat itself, not necessarily how
it was loaded. Still you can't shift weight unless there is some weight to
shift and since we are the only company I know of that allows the paddler to
shift their weight to any significant degree I didn't think that the
paddler's weight was the weight you would be shifting.
Sorry for the misunderstanding, did I get it right this time? If not please
explain in more detail.
Matt Broze
http://www.marinerkayaks.com

-----Original Message-----
From: 735769 <735769_at_ican.net>
To: Matt Broze <mkayaks_at_oz.net>
Date: Saturday, September 04, 1999 3:35 PM
Subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Fore and aft trim


>
>
>>>John Winters responded:
>>>I agree fully with what you say here. However, I am unclear how it
applies
>>>to my comments.  My comment referred to the practice of shifting weight
to
>>>correct helm not to how a rudder or skeg can offset poor loading.
>>>
>>>Hope that clears things up a bit.
>>
>>
>>Actually it has confused me since I apparently saw this like Bill did. I
am
>>having trouble making a distinction between poor loading and poor weight
>>distribution (causing an incorrect helm that you suggested could be
ignored
>>if you have a rudder or skeg with which to compensate). Could you clarify
>>please.
>>
>
>
>Would you show me where, in my original post in paragraph two and three
>that
>I referred to poor loading or poor weight distribution.
>
>Would you show me where in my original post in paragraph two and three that
>I
>said that a rudder or skeg could be used to offset improper loading or
>weight distribution.
>
>Once I know where and how you got that impression it will help in clearing
>up the misunderstanding.
>
>Cheers,
>John Winters
>Redwing Designs
>Web site address, http://home.ican.net/~735769
>
>
>
>

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