Whitesavage & Lyle wrote: > > "Does anyone have any feel for how much load such tethers must take?" [snip] > With either paddle or personal tethers the loads will equal whatever > force is required to suddenly accellerate the mass of your body, moving > against water resistance, pulled by a lunging object weighing 100 to 200 > pounds (for a loaded single). The lunging kayak could have hundreds of > pounds of water pressure acting on it. Because of the hammer-blow like > nature of the forces that might act on this tether if you and your boat > are thrown in differrent directions I would make a wild guess at > thousands of pounds of force (momentarily). I would not be surprised if > the forces involved can be similar to the forces involved in leader > falls. Certainly it would not be overdoing it to use gear as strong as > climbers use to make a personal tether. Sailors, expecting to be > dragged through the water by a multi-ton boat, use very strong tethers. > This kind of tether could snap a light paddle shaft in half easily. > > Does this sound right to someone who knows more specifics about the > physics of this problem? Well, yes and no. In a leader fall, the climber will have fallen a distance twice the distance from the last point of protection to the climber before he/she falls, before the rope begins to arrest his/her descent. Because modern climbing ropes elongate as they are loaded, the total energy of the falling climber is dissipated over quite a bit of rope elongation. This has the effect of reducing the peak forces generated in the system, a feature older ropes (Goldline, manila, etc.) did not have. There is nothing comparable to this amount of energy (the falling climber) in a yakker-paddle boat system under the likely scenarios sea kayakers would encounter in water (excluding big surf). If you used a modern climbing rope as part of the leash system, it would perform similarly to help reduce the peak forces. In addition, if you are in a water environment, and your body is *not fixed* (anchored) to something solid, then your body will respond to the tug of a leash by moving, thus spreading out the dissipation of the energy of the (moving) boat over more time, and making the peak forces much less than those in a leader fall, in which the belayer's end of the rope is "anchored" through a belaying device. ("Anchored" except in the sense that the belaying device is designed to allow more rope to slide through it when the force reaches a specified figure, making the belayer's end of the rope *not* rigidly anchored.) Nick, I suspect "thousands of pounds of force" is probably way too high an estimate even for the force generated in a worst-case "over the falls" scenario for a surf kayaker, because there is nothing rigid to "anchor" the yak or the paddler to, and the kayaker can only fall a few feet. Is "over the falls" the scenario you are envisioning, or do you have something else in mind? In any event, I believe it is widely agreed that leashes on kayaks used in **big** surf constitute a death wish (by entrapment or strangulation), and that leashes in even moderate to small surf are a very bad idea, *for kayakers.* Board surfers, of course, use bungie systems on their ankles in big surf, and do OK, because the dynamics of the surfer-bungie-board system are much different than the dynamics of a kayak-bungie-paddler system. I believe most of us are concerned with the forces generated if we capsize in a tide rip or in gnarly wind waves. Under these conditions, the yakker-paddle-boat system will not generate anything like the forces in a climbing rope in a leader fall. Mainly, we are dealing with the forces when somebody capsizes or falls out of the boat. This is because the yak is never moving faster than a few knots, and the yakker falls only a foot or two into the water, so falling overboard can not generate huge forces, unlike with the falling climber, who might be travelling 50 - 60 mph (!!) in a leader fall before the climbing rope begins to arrest his/her fall. Finally, a bungie or "telephone cord" leash, such as those discussed for a tether or paddle leash, will elongate lots at very low load (way less than a hundred pounds of tension), further reducing the peak force. OTOH, if a leash of wire cable is used, all bets are off -- wire does not elongate. -- Dave Kruger Astoria, OR *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************Received on Tue Sep 14 1999 - 21:28:31 PDT
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