Re: [Paddlewise] Saturation Point

Dave Kruger responded to my post and Jackie's reply as such:
<b snip> When I intertidally flush in a private cove on the coast of
Vancouver Island,
>my waste suffers the same fate Doug's does.  He and I are
>brothers-in-biological similarity.  So is everyone else reading this.

Yes, Dave. This is a big part of the reason for my post. Here in BC we have
been trying to initiate a BC Marine Trail, much like you have in
Washington/Oregon. A series of campsites and outhouses, while perhaps
distracting from a wilderness experience, would solve some of the problems.
Proper disposal of humane waste (and other litter sources) is still
something a lot of us struggle with to do correctly, 100% of the time. But,
while kayakers are all behind the trail concept, little real help is
emerging. I've tried pushing here in BC, but encounter a lot of apathy.
 
>Doug is trolling.  He caught some of us.

I don't get it Dave. Trolling? I thought paddlewise was a place to exchange
ideas. No? Unless you mean I baited the hook with some fairly stern
statements. Caught you anyway. What I really wanted to catch was a sense of
where people are at on this issue. I do think paddlewise is a great
resource to help us wrestle with these types of issues.
Jackie has something real going on here which may prove invaluable in the
coming years.
 
>Got any **real** answers to your questions, Doug?  

Sorry, bit slow here. Do you mean, do I have answers? I wasn't trying to
land a big fish or nothing here. I just know there is a wealth of
intelligence out there in paddlewise land (my IQ is somewhat limited, sort
of a brawn over brains thing). I'm just trying to dilate the truth a bit,
and deliver a few answers - and mix a few metaphors :-)

<snip> Anybody who has practical, realistic ways to promote protective
enjoyment of
>precious paddle spots should speak up.  Heaven knows resource managers like
>Anna Gajda of Gwaii Haanas struggle every day with this.  We owe them our
>ideas and support.  Not simplistic answers or jingoistic phraseology.
>What are the answers? Limits? Restricted publicity? Concentrating paddlers
in one area >(viz. Brokens) to avert crowding in another (viz. the Deers)?
Guidebook authors with >sensitive scruples?

Okay, now were talking Dave. Way to go, big guy! Thank you. 

>Fewer "dramatic" rescues widely bandied about the paddling community?

Do you mean my "dramatic rescue" Dave? I don't think it matters much in the
paddling community, other than there are lessons to be learned which come
out in due process and are often beneficial to all. The public, that's a
little different, and such dramas not engender or foster that much good
will, though in our case the Coast Guard did say that we were just the tip
of the rescue iceberg: that most paddlers plucked out of the water had
little training, little in the way of primary or adjunctive rescue/distress
equipment; and that they appreciated paddlers like us that are well
prepared and trained. 

>Hook's out Doug ... chomp away.
 
I know some people don't like Sea Kayaker Magazine, for whatever reason.
I've recently started to contribute experiences, safety articles, rescue
strategy articles, etc, rather than sit back on my duff and not support
them like I was previously. I write for Wavelength, never taking money from
them, rather donating it to an environmental cause. I support my local
kayak club, both morally, practically, and with as much time as I can fit
in with family duties. I've taken the summer off from paddling to think
things through. I'm encouraging my children toward an environmental ethic
and one of tolerance toward other people and ways of thinking - not easy to
do in a Baptist church. And, participating in Paddlewise. 

I see there are some more responses awaiting to be opened; I have faith
there are some good ones. Appreciate you Dave.

BC'in Ya
Doug Lloyd

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