Due to server problems, I am resending this message. I apologize if you previously received it. Debs > ---------- > From: Reeves, Debbie (Debbie) > Sent: Monday, September 27, 1999 3:37 PM > To: PaddleWise_at_lists.intelenet.net; 'rww_at_neosoft.com' > Subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Saturation Point > > > > ---------- > Matt wrote: > The landowners just don't want us on what they > > have long considered there property even though it legally isn't. There > > have been incidents of paddlers being threateded by an irate landowner > > with a shotgun while standing legally on public property. > > Richard wrote: > Dial 911. I've never heard of this happening on a Texas beach. On a > hill > country river, yes, but a public ocean facing beach? Never. > > And I respond that this very thing happened to a group of us 3 weekends > ago. We were paddling on Barnegat Bay (NJ) and had crossed over to the > lighthouse. Down the shoreline just a bit from the light is a public > municiple parking lot (dirt), used heavily by fisherman and 'water > gazers' which is bulkheaded (facing the bay). The bulkhead is necessary > due to the amount of wind (waves) and its being located right next to a > very busy channel (big wakes). Where the bulkhead ends the water cuts > back into a sizable quiet area. On the left is a beach (still part of the > municipal lot). To the right and down a ways is a private marina. Now, > back out on the bay are some very old pilings, 10 ft off shore, to the > right end of the bulkhead and they were at one time, I guess, a barrier > wall. To the right of that is the "motorway" into a private marina. As > we paddled in to land on the municipal beach, we were yelled at and > threatened by the marina workers. This argument lasted several minutes > with us trying to explain that we had a right to be on the water and them > screaming the water "belonged" to the marina. Well, now all the fishermen > are pissed off and they're yelling (taking our side), the pedestrians are > yelling (taking our side). It was very ugly. If the marina dude had had > a gun, he certainly would have been firing it over our heads. Since there > is NO WHERE else to land and get out of the boats on this side of the bay, > we had to exit our boats out on the bay (in the waves and wakes) and > standing in waist-deep water hoist all the boats up over the bulkhead. It > sucked. Later, the foot police came on their usual rounds and I grab him > and explain what had happened. We were all shocked to hear that Mr. > Marina had been on the legal side of the law. As the police explained it > to us, he owns and insures the marina. The marina apparently is defined > as the bottom land AND "all the water covering it" that the "motors" must > use to gain access to it. So there you have it, at least here at the > Barnegat Bay in NJ. Mr. Marina owns the water (all of it). > > Let's see. To get to Texas I drive south and then turn right . . . > > Debbie Reeves > Sandy Hook, NJ > > > > *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************Received on Tue Sep 28 1999 - 06:57:13 PDT
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