Re: [Paddlewise] Where to Pee (was: Saturation Point)

From: Walt Chudleigh <Wchudleigh_at_sisna.com>
Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 22:49:02 -0600
Shawn W. Baker wrote:
> 
> Someone downstream has to drink from that river!  Don't you think deer,
> elk, and bears pee on the shore?  I think improper disposal of solid
> waste (#2) and toilet paper is the bigger problem--pee at least 100 feet
> from water!!!!  I don't want to have to hope my MSR filter will filter
> out the stuff your bladder didn't want anymore!!
> 
> Peeing in the ocean is a different story than peeing in a "fresh" water
> source.

Shawn-  although it looks like you are from Montana I think we're
talking about different rivers.  1) Nobody drinks downstream from the
rivers I'm describing-  the Colorado, Green, San Juan, Dolores.  I don't
think there are any cities using Colorado river water for drinking below
the Grand Canyon.  2) Your MSR filter would clog in about 10 seconds if
you tried to pump this water.  It is western desert river water full of
suspended sand the color of chocolate milk.  Visibility is about 1/2".  
3) It rarely rains other than occasional thunderstorms.  The smell of
accumulated urine in the bushes near the few level campsites reminded me
of eastern city stairwells when I first moved out here from New England 
4)  Rarely can you get 100 feet away from the river due to vertical
cliffs.

Seriously- BLM rangers on all of these rivers and I think most other
western big water rivers instruct all river runners to pee in the river.
It seemed illogical to me at first- but now I completely agree. BTW I
grew up near Philadelphia and our drinking water came from the Schuykill
river downstream from several large cities and their sewage plants.  It
had been recyled in various ways several times by the time we got it!

Walt
Park City, Utah
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