Re: [Paddlewise] Rocker: too many sea kayaks

From: Matt Broze <mkayaks_at_oz.net>
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 00:24:32 -0700
-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Zen <canoeist_at_netbox.com>


>At 20:09 9/29/99 -0400, Michael Daly wrote:
>>Mark Zen wrote:
>>> On Wed, 29 Sep 1999, Kenneth Cooperstein wrote:
>>> [snip]
>>> > Assumptions:
>>> >
>>> [snip]
>>> > (2) Leaning the boat a little causes it to turn away from the lean
>>> > because the low side is longer on the water than the high side,
causing
>>> > lift aft.  Thus lean can be used to steer in open water.
>>>
>>> leaning the boat will not cause the boat to turn.
>>
>>I beg to differ.  This is one of the tests I conduct on a kayak when I
paddle
>>it.  I get up to speed, stop paddling and drift a bit.  Then, _without_ a
sweep
>>stroke, I lean the kayak.  Good ones turn opposite the lean.
>>
>>Mike
>
>mike,
>you snipped:
>====
>if the boat is going in a straight line, and you lean left, you keep going
>in a straight line. if the boat is turning left, and you lean left, you
turn
>a bit faster. if the boat is turning left, and you lean right, you turn
left FAST,
>this is called a "jam turn"
>====
>i am fairly willing to bet the boat has started a turn before you lean,
>and you were performing a jam turn...
>to become certified as a _canoe_ instructor, we had to demonstrate this
>principle to the instructor trainer...

Do you have this somewhere in writing. I'd like to add it to my
"misinformation from the ACA" file but first I must see the original source
to understand if they are operating from a limited perspective or you have
broadened their meaning into area it was not meant to cover. Did they use
any qualifiers?

>from what i know of hull shapes,
>the same _should_ be true of sea kayaks as well... whitewater kayaks
probably
>fit that catagory, but i'm sure some of the play boats do strange things...

Matt Broze
http://www.marinerkayaks.com


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