On Thu, 30 Sep 1999, Matt Broze wrote: > From: Mark Zen <canoeist_at_netbox.com> > >if the boat is going in a straight line, and you lean left, you keep going > >in a straight line. if the boat is turning left, and you lean left, you > turn > >a bit faster. if the boat is turning left, and you lean right, you turn > left FAST, > >this is called a "jam turn" > >==== > >i am fairly willing to bet the boat has started a turn before you lean, > >and you were performing a jam turn... > >to become certified as a _canoe_ instructor, we had to demonstrate this > >principle to the instructor trainer... > > Do you have this somewhere in writing. I'd like to add it to my > "misinformation from the ACA" file but first I must see the original source > to understand if they are operating from a limited perspective or you have > broadened their meaning into area it was not meant to cover. Did they use > any qualifiers? no, i was hoping to back this up with a reference page, since i am 100% tired of flame wars... but notice _i_ made the disclaimer below. the instructor trainer i was refering to was the head of the ACA's WW canoe instructors program, and is also a boat designer. i have witnessed this precise thing more times than i can count in a canoe, it is NOT mis information. _I_ applied the knowledge i have and wrote very distinctly SHOULD... it DOES apply to canoes. i don't profess to know much about sea kayaks. all my "big boat" experience was on an aircraft carrier, working as an aircrew survival equipment specialist... mark > >from what i know of hull shapes, > >the same _should_ be true of sea kayaks as well... whitewater kayaks > probably > >fit that catagory, but i'm sure some of the play boats do strange things... > > Matt Broze > http://www.marinerkayaks.com -- #------canoeist[at]netbox[dot]com----http://www.diac.com/~zen/mark ---- # mark zen o, o__ o_/| o_. po box 474 </ [\/ [_| [_\ ft. lupton, co 80621-0474 (`-/-------/----') (`----|-------\-') #~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~_at_~~~~~~~_at_~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~_at_~~~~~~~~_at_~~~~~ http://www.diac.com/~zen/paddler [index to club websites i administer] Rocky Mtn Sea Kayak Club, Colorado River Flows, Poudre Paddlers The Colorado Paddlers' Resource, Rocky Mtn Canoe Club Trip Page -- Fortune: One kind word can warm three winter months. --Japanese Proverb *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************Received on Thu Sep 30 1999 - 05:41:38 PDT
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