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From: <HTERVORT_at_aol.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] boat tether / SRBs
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 16:23:49 EDT
In a message dated 9/15/99 12:34:56 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
eharmon_at_cs.miami.edu writes:

<<Surely none of us uses non-locking biners!>>
and
<< and (e) a bit 
 > more likely to break in the event of the system being loaded beyond what 
my 
 > body might survive (acting as a weak-link).
  Interesting. That weakness has stopped me from considering using them to
 fasten anything, but you have a point. Another thing, however: in cold
 water (or with neoprene gloves on) are you going to be able to release it
 easily? e  >>

Good points, Elaine.

I'm certain SRBs *would* be hard to handle with gloves/cold hands, though 
addition of the quick-release straps others have described on this list might 
solve that problem.

But I also expect locking biners would prove to be as hard or even harder to 
release, as would many other types of clips.  I could even argue that 
stainless steel or aluminum biners are the *last* thing I would want to 
handle with bare hands in cold conditions.  Truth is, I can't talk from 
experience on this.

I've never used locking biners because of the difficulty of one-handed use 
and the supposition that they would seize in sand and saltwater conditions.  
All the commercially-available tow/swiftwater rescue systems I've seen use 
non-locking biners, but provide ways of stowing them in pockets or the like 
to prevent snagging, in spite of common swiftwater-rescue practice of 
specifying lockers.  

What are your experiences with locking biners in sea conditions?

Anyone else?

Still thinking and learning,

Harold.
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From: Elaine Harmon <eharmon_at_cs.miami.edu>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] boat tether / SRBs
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 17:06:40 -0400 (EDT)
On Wed, 15 Sep 1999 HTERVORT_at_aol.com wrote:

> What are your experiences with locking biners in sea conditions?

Sea conditions? We don't got them thangs hyar... we got warm water, etc...
and here I am trying to foresee and provide for cold water, high winds if
the weather changes on me (which it does in the Hebrides), and paddling
alone in a light boat. Got to have, I think, paddle leash and personal
tether and anything else I can think of. (will use float bags plus sea
sock; will get marine radio, have flares, etc., etc.)

Oh, that reminds me: we talked about how to wash piss out of your wetsuit;
how about shit? Slainte! e

Elaine Harmon - eilidh_at_dc.seflin.org - eharmon_at_cs.miami.edu

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From: <HTERVORT_at_aol.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] boat tether / SRBs
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 21:06:14 EDT
In a message dated 9/15/99 2:05:23 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
eharmon_at_cs.miami.edu writes:

<< Oh, that reminds me: we talked about how to wash piss out of your wetsuit;
 how about shit? Slainte! e
  >>

Who did??  I don't talk poo-poo! :^)

Harold
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From: Elaine Harmon <eharmon_at_cs.miami.edu>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] boat tether / SRBs
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 11:09:22 -0400 (EDT)
On Mon, 18 Oct 1999, Mel Lammers wrote:

> Reviewing old Paddlewise digest where you discussed cleaning out wetsuit of 
> shit and piss:
> 
> I recommend using a different toilet.  <grin>

OK, I'll try to remember that. ;-)

Actually, thanks to Ralph's suggestion I got a real good deal on a wetsuit
with a ladies' relief zipper. Thanks again Ralph! Then I bought a
freshette women's urinal device, which I'm going to start practicing with
in the shower one of these days. I'll fit it with an extra long extension
tube - not that I think I can use it while in the cockpit, I just want to
be able to relieve myself on the beach with the guys and know my hose is
longer than theirs (Penis envy gets its revenge HAHAHAHAHAHA !) And
frustrate the wee black bloodsucking bastards, hopefully.

I discovered another item in the Campmor catalog, the Travel John, which
is a "disposable personal urinal with a Liqsorb super absorbent pouch".
Might work in the cockpit. It claims the liquid turns into a
bio-degradable gel when it combines with the crystals in the permeable
pouch, and its capacity is claimed to be "20 fl oz (600 cc) max for
multiple uses until filled". Package of 3 for $6. For men I like the
sponge idea the best, of course. (Think I'll post this to Pwise, too.)

As far as the solid waste issue, I figure that'll only happen in such
circumstances that a dirty wetsuit won't be what's on my mind. Slainte! e

Elaine Harmon - eilidh_at_dc.seflin.org - eharmon_at_cs.miami.edu

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