Interesting this matter of gay kayakers should come up now. During last week's disscussion of solo or non-solo paddling, I mentioned I'd done a longish trip with a woman whose own partner was not into as hardcore trips as she was. One paddlewiser commented to me off-list: >My wife, who is not a very insecure or jealous person, >would never feel comfortable if I were to go on a several-day trip with >another woman I replied: I've worked for a large retailer of outdoor recreational equipment (including sea kayaking gear) for more than a decade, and I know that our internal company culture is a bit different than that of the world at large. Our company culture is such that employees of both genders and both gender preferences mix and match to go on trips, choosing one another on the basis of skill, compatibilty, and ability. In this environment, going touring with someone does not neccessarily imply you're sleeping with them. When I met my wife a few years ago, it did take her awhile to be convinced that there was such a thing as "platonic touring" with some one of the opposite sex. >even if the "other woman" had a life partner of her same sex. In this instance, I wasn't using "life partner" as a coded way of identifying my paddling partner as a lesbian. In fact, her "life partner" is male. However, I do lots of trips with gay or bisexual men or women. I enjoy the pleasure of their company on the water and on the beach, not in my sleeping bag. Now, when I go on kayaking trips with my wife... (A few years back I did a trip with a very attractive, feminine gay woman (the sort sometimes referred to as a "lipstick lesbian"). Not until after the trip did I discover that my wife (at the time we were not yet married) had been unware of this woman's orientation, and had been stewing in jealousy the whole time! Philip Torrens N49°16' W123°06' PS: there's a gay hiking club here in Vancouver with a great name: "Out and About". >From: Sandykayak_at_aol.com >It seems that macho men are terrified of being seduced by gay men. How >come >feminine women don't go around being scared of being seduced by lesbians? >Have you ever heard a woman go on and on ad nauseum about gays? > >Sandy Kramer >mom to a dynamite young man who happens to be gay! *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
.....gay paddlers (as other paddlers) will develop healthier hearts as they pursue their sport ......ergo: they will live longer. Longer life is a good thing. Especially when one considers the alternative. It really doesn't concern me who occupies your sleeping bag (as I've found out with my own well beloved wife of 25 years.....unless you zip two bags together, nothing's gonna happen anyway). What concerns me.......can I lick 'em in a race? Chris (testosterone enhanced) Kohut (who wearies of seeing that same guy's back getting smaller and smaller for the entire10k) Philip Torrens wrote: > Interesting this matter of gay kayakers should come up now. During last > week's disscussion of solo or non-solo paddling, I mentioned I'd done a > longish trip with a woman whose own partner was not into as hardcore trips > as she was. One paddlewiser commented to me off-list: > > >My wife, who is not a very insecure or jealous person, > >would never feel comfortable if I were to go on a several-day trip with > >another woman > > I replied: > I've worked for a large retailer of outdoor recreational equipment > (including sea kayaking gear) for more than a decade, and I know that our > internal company culture is a bit different than that of the world at large. > Our company culture is such that employees of both genders and both gender > preferences mix and match to go on trips, choosing one another on the basis > of skill, compatibilty, and ability. In this environment, going touring with > someone does not neccessarily imply you're sleeping with them. When I met my > wife a few years ago, it did take her awhile to be convinced that there was > such a thing as "platonic touring" with some one of the opposite sex. > > >even if the "other woman" had a life partner of her same sex. > > In this instance, I wasn't using "life partner" as a coded way of > identifying my paddling partner as a lesbian. In fact, her "life partner" is > male. However, I do lots of trips with gay or bisexual men or women. I enjoy > the pleasure of their company on the water and on the beach, not in my > sleeping bag. Now, when I go on kayaking trips with my wife... > > (A few years back I did a trip with a very attractive, feminine gay woman > (the sort sometimes referred to as a "lipstick lesbian"). Not until after > the trip did I discover that my wife (at the time we were not yet married) > had been unware of this woman's orientation, and had been stewing in > jealousy the whole time! > > Philip Torrens > N49°16' W123°06' > > PS: there's a gay hiking club here in Vancouver with a great name: "Out and > About". > > >From: Sandykayak_at_aol.com > > >It seems that macho men are terrified of being seduced by gay men. How > >come > >feminine women don't go around being scared of being seduced by lesbians? > >Have you ever heard a woman go on and on ad nauseum about gays? > > > >Sandy Kramer > >mom to a dynamite young man who happens to be gay! > > *************************************************************************** > PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List > Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net > Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net > Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ > *************************************************************************** *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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