Until we get organized and post some photographs of Maligiaq paddling in South Florida, Michael Bradley has given permission to show how M rides Greenland style!! :) :) :) Sandy Kramer Miami Return-Path: <kobra_at_interlinx.qc.ca> Received: from rly-zd01.mx.aol.com (rly-zd01.mail.aol.com [172.31.33.225]) by air-zd04.mail.aol.com (v60.28) with ESMTP; Sun, 19 Sep 1999 22:22:35 -0400 Received: from phyleus.interlinx.qc.ca (phyleus.interlinx.qc.ca [207.253.145.6]) by rly-zd01.mx.aol.com (v61.9) with ESMTP; Sun, 19 Sep 1999 22:22:13 -0400 Received: from interlinx.qc.ca (033.utc-5.Sherbrooke.InterLinx.qc.ca [207.253.149.53]) by phyleus.interlinx.qc.ca (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA10420; Sun, 19 Sep 1999 22:21:17 -0400 Message-ID: <37E59A92.77EE027E_at_interlinx.qc.ca> Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1999 22:23:15 -0400 From: Michael Bradley <kobra_at_interlinx.qc.ca> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sandykayak_at_aol.com, info_at_paddling.com Subject: Maligiaq! References: <89cb5299.25166f32_at_aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/mixed by demime 0.92b X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain > Thought you'd all like to see Maligiaq's other love - horseback riding, > Greenland style! LOL Hope you're having a great time Maligiaq. Your Canadian family sends their love. Michael [demime 0.92b removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of Nightpaddler.gif] *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
In a message dated 9/21/99 7:08:14 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Sandykayak_at_aol.com writes: << [demime 0.92b removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of Nightpaddler.gif] >> Oops, I guess you can't just forward something that has a photo. I'm really unlearned in this whole computers-and-photography arena. What should I have done? Jackie, can you answer this one? I know that when people send me stuff in "mime" my aol doesn't like it and I can't view them. Sandy Kramer *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
hi sandy, if you want to forward the picture directly to me, I will put it up on a website, and send everyone the url... pictures should never be sent to a mailing list for many reasons... the first and most important to remember [IMHO] is not everyone is on a windows based computer, so what you may be able to view, i may not. the second is that many people who live in rural areas, or have older homes, may not have "fast" internet connections... a 1MB file can take 20 minutes to download... mark On Tue, 21 Sep 1999 Sandykayak_at_aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 9/21/99 7:08:14 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > Sandykayak_at_aol.com writes: > > << [demime 0.92b removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of > Nightpaddler.gif] >> > > Oops, I guess you can't just forward something that has a photo. I'm really > unlearned in this whole computers-and-photography arena. What should I have > done? Jackie, can you answer this one? > > I know that when people send me stuff in "mime" my aol doesn't like it and I > can't view them. > > Sandy Kramer > *************************************************************************** > PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List > Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net > Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net > Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ > *************************************************************************** > #------canoeist[at]netbox[dot]com----http://www.diac.com/~zen/mark ---- # mark zen o, o__ o_/| o_. po box 474 </ [\/ [_| [_\ ft. lupton, co 80621-0474 (`-/-------/----') (`----|-------\-') #~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~_at_~~~~~~~_at_~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~_at_~~~~~~~~_at_~~~~~ http://www.diac.com/~zen/paddler [index to club websites i administer] Rocky Mtn Sea Kayak Club, Colorado River Flows, Poudre Paddlers The Colorado Paddlers' Resource, Rocky Mtn Canoe Club Trip Page -- Fortune: One kind word can warm three winter months. --Japanese Proverb *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
In a message dated 9/21/99 8:14:56, canoeist_at_netbox.com writes: >the first and most important to >remember [IMHO] is not everyone is on a windows based computer, Yeah, some of us have better things to do than wait for windoze to crash, we have Mac's!! Scott Just north of Cuba. My weather rock thinks its gonna rain today?? *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
> From: Sandykayak_at_aol.com > In a message dated 9/21/99 7:08:14 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > Sandykayak_at_aol.com writes: > > << [demime 0.92b removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of > Nightpaddler.gif] >> > > Oops, I guess you can't just forward something that has a photo. I'm really > unlearned in this whole computers-and-photography arena. What should I have > done? Jackie, can you answer this one? Yup. It's list policy.... don't send jpegs and other images to the list. It's list policy on almost all lists because the files are usually huge and some folks out there pay for their download time, maybe even long distance rates. The way to handle an image for the group is to place it on a web page and announce the URL, or offer to send it to anyone that would like to see it. That way, you are sure it goes to those that want to see it and can handle the size. Also, anyone here can feel free to send the image to me and ask that I put it up on the PaddleWise website so they can share it with other members. I'd be happy to do that. Cheers, Jackie *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
It seems I have a boat to many for my fleet (if that is possible). For Sale: Easy Rider Eskimo 17 Expedition Equipped Sea Kayak bulkheads/hatches, deck lines/paddlefloat rig, rudder, deck compass Fiberglass _at_55lbs. White with orange trim. Also included are the matching cockpit cover, sprayskirt and a fiberglass Werner Camano paddle. I have used the boat extensively in Western Washington and BC and is in great shape. The boat is located near Seattle and I am willing to demo and deliver for interested local parties. I am asking $2000 for the package. If you are interested, please reply to me and not the list. Thanks, Daniel -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Daniel Key Mechanical Engineering, University of Washington dtheman_at_u.washington.edu (206) 527-2915 http://students.washington.edu/dtheman -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
I've been reading Paddlewise for a couple of weeks now and have come to a couple of tentative conclusions about the group. You/we have a great group of people here who are very helpful and don't mind answering the kind of questions that newbies like me might ask. I've learned a bunch and picked up some ideas that I will definitely implement on my boat, i.e. paddle and self tethers, towing setups, survival gear, etc. One of the things I've picked up from Paddlewise stimulated consideration of matters is that I'll want to place my diving weight belt as close to under my butt as I can, to further stabilize an already fat/stable boat, while en route, without impairing maneuverability, as putting it in one of the end compartments might. I can also see that my first thought of packing it in the front compartment when finished diving might well cause me some little surf transit problems [submarining?] on returning to the beach.)I've found it all interesting and plan to continue on th! ! e list, hopefully I'll eventually find myself able to contribute some answers to questions and/or helpful opinions in the cause of stimulating thought. I'm an ex-paddler of some 12 years experience in "Royaks," which many may never have seen. (I've learned that us'ns who started growing up before color TV often refer to things that make people go, "huh? What's that?") They are/were an ABS/cycolac yellow boat shaped a lot like an aircraft wing tank half, designed for diving but with a ton of storage volume which made them passable for river camping, tho' I wouldn't think they'd be good in white water. I understand the are no longer made; they used to be very popular with the SCUBA/Snorkeling crowd back when I was Dive Activities Chairman for the Sierra Club Dive Section (San Francisco Bay Area) for a year or so. That ended about 20 years ago when my ex' and I split and I gave her everything I had to get my retirement free and clear. Now I'm 5 years into retirement and, after remembering how it seemed half the fun of diving with the Royaks was paddling to the dive site, I've gotten a paddle boat. After a little internet researc! ! h I bought a Cobra Explorer kayak. I think it's going to be just fine for what I originally intended, Day trips around here with frequent dropping out of the boat for a free dive, after anchoring and setting up the dive flag on one of those bike flag pylons. I'm already considering buying a longer boat, 15-18 feet for the purpose of longer trips, day to a week, from which I would probably want to dive, occasionally. Because of the diving aspect of my kayaking I have chosen the sit on top variety. I took some kayaking classes and didn't find the limited in-boat mobility of the sit inside variety suitable for what I want to do. The ones I've tried didn't give me what I considered a very practical platform for handling your diving gear. I do find the discussions very applicable to my usage, except for rolling and skirts. Considerations of width and stability make it likely that I'd keep my present fat boat for mostly diving and reduce the diving from the 'traveling' boat because of its narrower profile and desire to keep it as light as possible for easy long-distance paddling. I hope to someday get the point where I'll be able to cross Monterey bay from Santa Cruz to Monterey. This one, I think would qualify as an open ocean trip, as! ! in the middle you'd be at least 10 miles offshore of Moss Landing and 12 miles from the start and end. People make the trip in 5-6 hours, which is beyond me in my current boat, even if I were foolish enough to try such a trip at my current skill level. I figure such a trip is at least a year or so in my future, if not more. Are there any/many people here who sit on top instead of inside, or are we outside kayakers considered not 'real' kayakers on paddlewise? ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dave Flory, San Jose, CA. dflory_at_earthlink.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Speak softly and study Aikido, then you won't need a big stick. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
hello! i was reading your post, and thought i'd reply-i'm in boulder creek, in the (San Lorenzo Kayak Club) valley above santa cruz, and it sounds like you're local too...i bought a Dawn Trakker a few years ago, and, although i haven't been on the water as much as i would like to, when i did i found it very stable and enjoyable-it's a combination sit-on-top with a removable cowling, and sections in front and back to cut hatches, or if not, then you have two floataion chambers-i also have thought a trip across monterey bay would be a great undertaking, and wouldn't mind collaborating-i would think it'd be better to have companions than do a solo, at least for safety's sake... john mcanally Dave Flory wrote: > I've been reading Paddlewise for a couple of weeks now and have come to a couple of tentative conclusions about the group. You/we have a great group of people here who are very helpful and don't mind answering the kind of questions that newbies like me might ask. I've learned a bunch and picked up some ideas that I will definitely implement on my boat, i.e. paddle and self tethers, towing setups, survival gear, etc. One of the things I've picked up from Paddlewise stimulated consideration of matters is that I'll want to place my diving weight belt as close to under my butt as I can, to further stabilize an already fat/stable boat, while en route, without impairing maneuverability, as putting it in one of the end compartments might. I can also see that my first thought of packing it in the front compartment when finished diving might well cause me some little surf transit problems [submarining?] on returning to the beach.)I've found it all interesting and plan to continue on th! > ! > ! > e list, hopefully I'll eventually find myself able to contribute some answers to questions and/or helpful opinions in the cause of stimulating thought. > > I'm an ex-paddler of some 12 years experience in "Royaks," which many may never have seen. (I've learned that us'ns who started growing up before color TV often refer to things that make people go, "huh? What's that?") They are/were an ABS/cycolac yellow boat shaped a lot like an aircraft wing tank half, designed for diving but with a ton of storage volume which made them passable for river camping, tho' I wouldn't think they'd be good in white water. I understand the are no longer made; they used to be very popular with the SCUBA/Snorkeling crowd back when I was Dive Activities Chairman for the Sierra Club Dive Section (San Francisco Bay Area) for a year or so. That ended about 20 years ago when my ex' and I split and I gave her everything I had to get my retirement free and clear. Now I'm 5 years into retirement and, after remembering how it seemed half the fun of diving with the Royaks was paddling to the dive site, I've gotten a paddle boat. After a little internet researc! > ! > ! > h I bought a Cobra Explorer kayak. I think it's going to be just fine for what I originally intended, Day trips around here with frequent dropping out of the boat for a free dive, after anchoring and setting up the dive flag on one of those bike flag pylons. > > I'm already considering buying a longer boat, 15-18 feet for the purpose of longer trips, day to a week, from which I would probably want to dive, occasionally. Because of the diving aspect of my kayaking I have chosen the sit on top variety. I took some kayaking classes and didn't find the limited in-boat mobility of the sit inside variety suitable for what I want to do. The ones I've tried didn't give me what I considered a very practical platform for handling your diving gear. I do find the discussions very applicable to my usage, except for rolling and skirts. Considerations of width and stability make it likely that I'd keep my present fat boat for mostly diving and reduce the diving from the 'traveling' boat because of its narrower profile and desire to keep it as light as possible for easy long-distance paddling. I hope to someday get the point where I'll be able to cross Monterey bay from Santa Cruz to Monterey. This one, I think would qualify as an open ocean trip, as! > ! > ! > in the middle you'd be at least 10 miles offshore of Moss Landing and 12 miles from the start and end. People make the trip in 5-6 hours, which is beyond me in my current boat, even if I were foolish enough to try such a trip at my current skill level. I figure such a trip is at least a year or so in my future, if not more. > > Are there any/many people here who sit on top instead of inside, or are we outside kayakers considered not 'real' kayakers on paddlewise? > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Dave Flory, San Jose, CA. dflory_at_earthlink.net > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Speak softly and study Aikido, then you won't need a big stick. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > *************************************************************************** > PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List > Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net > Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net > Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ > *************************************************************************** *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Dear Dave, I see a quite a few Royaks on the Lower American River through Sacramento. Perhaps they migrated here from the San Francisco Bay Area. BijiliE << "Royaks," which many may never have seen. (I've learned that us'ns who started growing up before color TV often refer to things that make people go, "huh? What's that?") They are/were an ABS/cycolac yellow boat shaped a lot like an aircraft wing tank half, designed for diving but with a ton of storage volume which made them passable for river camping, tho' I wouldn't think they'd be good in white water. >> *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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