Robert Woodard wrote: > > > Rudders increase the effect by allowing an even greater angle of > > attack and, > > if the rudder has a suitable section shape, it can provide significant > > increases in lift. > I've seen you guys refer to rudders and lift before. I've seen reference to > making rudders in a foil shape, is this what you mean by section shape? I've > seen probably 30-40 rudders mounted on kayaks, but they've all been the flat > blade types, although I've been told foil shaped blades exist. > > > An interesting aspect of skegs comes from their location. Both skegs and > > rudders generate lift to offset leeway. > > Here is where I'm really lacking in understanding all of this: How does a > skeg, essentially a flat piece of metal or composite, aligned with the boat, > generate lift? I see the skeg as creating lateral resistance. Is this the > same thing as lift? Woody, I'm pretty sure they are talking about "lift" to the side, which can not be generated without some resistance (an aircraft maxim: no drag, no lift; high lift to drag *ratio* is good; low lift to drag ratio is bad). In other words, a force at right angles to the rudder/skeg surface. So, the rudder/skeg, when hit from the left (port) side, for example, by water as you move through it, produces a force, due to its "airfoil" shape and its angle of attack, to the right, analogous to the lift (in the vertical direction) which an airplane wing generates as it moves through air. Any airfoil which moves through any fluid, be it air or water, will generate "lift" if it has a positive angle of attack (ignoring stalling, to simplify things). The discussion about the influence of rudder/skeg cross-sectional shape ("airfoil" used in a different sense) on the *efficiency* of the lift/drag combination seems to be drifting towards the conclusion that flat plates are not as good as virtually any airfoil, and that some airfoils are better than others. Winters (and others) must have tank test and/or field test data to suggest what is the best airfoil. At the Reynolds numbers a yak rudder operates at, I wonder how much difference it might make, and am really curious what data exist to show an airfoil makes enough difference for me to notice when paddling. -- Dave Kruger Astoria, OR *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************Received on Mon Oct 18 1999 - 17:07:08 PDT
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