Hi All! I'm looking at the Apelco 520 radio. Seems to come with everything we think we need for a fair price. Anyone out there have any experience with this radio? Good or Bad. Like to hear Sheri *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
On Sat, 9 Oct 1999, Steve James wrote: > Hi All! > I'm looking at the Apelco 520 radio. Seems to come with everything we > think we need for a fair price. Anyone out there have any experience > with this radio? Good or Bad. Like to hear > Sheri After scratching my head about which one for a while (I believe there's a thread re radios on the Paddlewise pages) I bought the Raytheon 102, which is the direct successor to the Apelco 520, just recently. Consumers Marine Electronics, 1-800-332-2628 currently has (still, I hope) it on special for $189 plus $7 shipping. Regular price of $199 is still probably the best price around. e Elaine Harmon - eilidh_at_dc.seflin.org - eharmon_at_cs.miami.edu *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Elaine Harmon wrote: > > On Sat, 9 Oct 1999, Steve James wrote: > > > Hi All! > > I'm looking at the Apelco 520 radio. Seems to come with everything we > > think we need for a fair price. Anyone out there have any experience > > with this radio? Good or Bad. Like to hear > > Sheri > > After scratching my head about which one for a while (I believe there's a > thread re radios on the Paddlewise pages) I bought the Raytheon 102, which > is the direct successor to the Apelco 520, just recently. Consumers Marine > Electronics, 1-800-332-2628 currently has (still, I hope) it on special > for $189 plus $7 shipping. Regular price of $199 is still probably the > best price around. e In their new 102, the Raytheon company has corrected the production bugs in the Apelco 520 that have been covered earlier this year in this Paddlewise forum. It looks like a good radio especially at that price. Its size and weight has tremendous advantages. BTW, that fellow from Raytheon who is on PaddleWise is donating three of them to the Downtown Boathouse where I expect they will be put to good use. Those Boathouse public program trips to the Statue of Liberty face a unique paddling environment that sometimes can be daunting when the seas pick up and the marine traffic remains heavy throughout. The radios will be virtual life-savers then. Having them here should also provide Raytheon with some feedback as the radios will be used by a variety of volunteers and won't get much babying in the process. BTW I already gave him some feedback. If you look at the specs in the manual, they list the radio at weighing one pound. But if you put it on a scale it is in the 10 ounce range. Seems that Raytheon counts the weight of the charger and its extension cord as well. That's understating a particular advantage of the radio as all you will have with you in your PFD is the radio unit and not all the rest of the stuff. ralph diaz -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Ralph Diaz . . . Folding Kayaker newsletter PO Box 0754, New York, NY 10024 Tel: 212-724-5069; E-mail: rdiaz_at_ix.netcom.com "Where's your sea kayak?"----"It's in the bag." ----------------------------------------------------------------------- *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Sheri wrote: "I'm looking at the Apelco 520 radio. Seems to come with everything we think we need for a fair price. Anyone out there have any experience with this radio? Good or Bad. Like to hear." Suggest you review the archives on this one, Sheri. Some considerable talk several months back about the Apelco. The thread talked me out of replacing my dying Apelco 510 with a 520 --- some problems with cooler weather operation, etc. on the 520. Bought the Standard Horizon HX350S instead: it's also a "submersible" radio, for a little more money. Have been very happy with it. But go back and take a look at those threads. Jack Martin *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
> > Hi All! > > I'm looking at the Apelco 520 radio. Can someone point me to a source (preferably on the web) about requirements to obtain a license to operate the handheld VHF radios? Thanks in advance, Woody *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
> > > Hi All! > > > I'm looking at the Apelco 520 radio. > > Can someone point me to a source (preferably on the web) about > requirements to obtain a license to operate the handheld VHF radios? In short, you don't need one if you are in a boat on the coastal waters of the United States. For non US specific info, it will vary from country to country. Richard Walker Houston, TX http://www.neosoft.com/~rww/kayak_log.html *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
At 10:47 PM 10/10/1999 -0500, R. Walker wrote: >> > > Hi All! >> > > I'm looking at the Apelco 520 radio. >> >> Can someone point me to a source (preferably on the web) about >> requirements to obtain a license to operate the handheld VHF radios? > >In short, you don't need one if you are in a boat on the coastal waters of >the United States. For non US specific info, it will vary from country to >country. >Richard Walker Or, to be a little more precise, you don't need a license to operate a hand-held VHF if the law does not require your boat to carry a radio. I just bought a HH980. I have not found the need to press the PTT button though. Does anyone know the correct protocol for placing a marine-to-land telephone call with the VHF? A local kayaker's web journal mentions doing this but he doesn't give the details. He did give the channels the marine operators work on (26, 84, & 87 on S.F. Bay). Do I just go on the listed channel, call for the marine operator, and ask to place a collect call? Or what? jerry. >*************************************************************************** >PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not >to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission >Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net >Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net >Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ >*************************************************************************** > *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
--- Jerry Hawkins <jhawkins_at_cisco.com> wrote: > Does anyone know the correct protocol for placing a > marine-to-land telephone call with the VHF? A local > kayaker's web journal mentions doing this but he > doesn't give the details. He did give the channels > the marine operators work on (26, 84, & 87 on S.F. > Bay). Do I just go on the listed channel, call for > the marine operator, and ask to place a collect > call? Or what? > > jerry. > Jerry, If I recall correctly all you have to do is get on channel 9 or 16 and ask for the Marine Operator. They will send you to the appropriate channel (i.e. 25), from there you should plan to place a collect call to the party you wish to talk, or you may set up an account prior with the Marine Operator for home billing. After that the Marine Operator will place the call for you, remember that your call will be in the open and the people you are calling should be aware of that before hand. They should also be aware that some semblance of proper radio comm should be used. On some older systems the Marine Operator would have to switch from talk to listen manually, this requires the talking party to say "over" so that the Operator can switch to the non-talking party. This is a pricey way to go, I think about 5 yrs ago it was something like tens of dollars/minute. Hope that helps, Jeff ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Pacific Bell charges 2.50 per call for the first 3 minutes, and 50 cents for every minute thereafter. - Julio > switch to the non-talking party. This is a pricey way > to go, I think about 5 yrs ago it was something like > tens of dollars/minute. > Hope that helps, > Jeff *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
juliom_at_cisco.com wrote: > > Pacific Bell charges 2.50 per call for the first 3 minutes, > and 50 cents for every minute thereafter. Julio, how do you handle the fees down there? Up here, you have to either announce your ATT (or similar) calling card number over the VHF airwaves, or set up an account with the local Marine Telephone service provider (US West here). The latter is very expensive -- like an annual fee of a hundred dollars or so. The result is that I have not used MarineTel services. I suppose one of these 10 dollar calling cards would work. What do you do? -- Dave Kruger Astoria, OR *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
R. Walker wrote: > > > > > Hi All! > > > > I'm looking at the Apelco 520 radio. > > > > Can someone point me to a source (preferably on the web) about > > requirements to obtain a license to operate the handheld VHF radios? > > In short, you don't need one if you are in a boat on the coastal waters of > the United States. For non US specific info, it will vary from country to > country. > > Richard Walker He's right. The government did away with such licensing several years ago. Good thing. In the last year or two of the licensing requirement they decided that you had to pay for your license for 10 years in advance rather than annually and that 10 year license was about $90 or so if I recall correctly. So anyone buying a radio then had to shell out $200 or more for the radio and nearly another $100 for the license. I know I was considering one just at that point and backed off. Good thing. The radios have since gotten cheaper, stronger and even submersible at reasonable prices considering their life-saving attributes. As Richard says, you no longer need a license for operating one on a boat but you do need one for operating from a land station, meaning on land. However, it is an FCC reg that isn't enforced unless someone is setting up something pretty permanent. If an emergency occurs and you are on land watching it, call in a May Day. The Coast Guard will come in and no one is going to get technical about where the call was made. The thing is not to be abusive with calling from the land. I understand from some sources that along remote stretches of the Alaskan coastline people regularly use marine VHF radios on land and the law does not come down cracking on them. ralph diaz -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Ralph Diaz . . . Folding Kayaker newsletter PO Box 0754, New York, NY 10024 Tel: 212-724-5069; E-mail: rdiaz_at_ix.netcom.com "Where's your sea kayak?"----"It's in the bag." ----------------------------------------------------------------------- *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
rdiaz_at_ix.netcom.com wrote: > [snip] you no longer need a license for operating [a marine VHF] on a > boat but you do need one for operating from a land station, meaning on > land. However, it is an FCC reg that isn't enforced unless someone is > setting up something pretty permanent. [snip] I understand > from some sources that along remote stretches of the Alaskan coastline > people regularly use marine VHF radios on land and the law does not come > down cracking on them. Similarly, in *remote* parts of the Charlottes, the VHF is the party line means of communication, with some land-based stations part of the network. Don't know if the permanent land-based VHF installations have a special license or not. As Ralph says, occasional transmissions from the beach are regarded as normal usage, in the parts of Canada I have visited. Where I live (mouth of the Columbia river), the same is true. However, about 4-5 years ago, the FCC conducted a sting here and busted several log truck drivers who were making regular use of *marine* VHF radios while driving logging roads. Big fines (in the $5000 range, IIRC), too. The other night some bozo radioed in a fake mayday from his car while he was driving along a highway paralleling the River. Local ham radio operators with beam antennas were able to pinpoint his location to within a couple miles, but because he was moving, they could not identify which car he was in. Too bad. These bogus mayday calls come in about 3 or 4 times a year here. -- Dave Kruger Astoria, OR *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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