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From: Ira Adams <iadams_at_earthlink.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Age and Strength for kayaking (was not young and never will be)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 18:21:06 -0500
My Jocassee was 88 lbs (acc. to the factory) _before_ I added a deck and 
rigging. I can pick it up and carry it a short way, but I avoid doing so!

That's probably also why it doesn't accelerate like my little whitewater 
boat.

Ira  Adams

On 10/15/99 5:24 PM Bob Myers (bob_at_intelenet.net) wrote:

>On Oct 15, 13:21, Dave Flory wrote:
>} Subject: [Paddlewise] Age and Strength for kayaking (was not young and nev
>> 
>> I've seen several people refer to the difficulty of putting the boat
>> on the vehicle and carrying it to the water. I doubt that any of us
>> are paddling boats that weigh 70 lbs. so this shouldn't be a serious
>
>Have you weighed a Sea Lion lately?
>
>Fully outfitted, I think it's really close to 70 lbs. or more.
>
>Many of the rotomolded boats are close to that weight.
>
>
>
>-- 
>Bob Myers                          InteleNet Communications, Inc.
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From: Dave Flory <dflory_at_earthlink.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Age and Strength for kayaking (was not young and never will be)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 18:07:29 -0700
> Umm, my point was that not just some, but rather many of us are
> paddling 70 lb. boats.  Sea Lions are very common.

OK, my relevant point is that even if the boat weighs 100 lbs. there is
no reason a normally healthy 80 year old can't be strong enough to lift
it onto the top of a car. My 83 year old could lift 100 lbs overhead
without great effort after about 9 mos. of conditioning for 30-40
minutes, 3 times a week. Add to this the fact that nobody that age, who
is smart about using their body, would just lift up the boat and put it
on the top, one should lift one end at a time, which is about half the
weight.

If one is basically healthy, there is no reason one can't kayak well
into the 80's and perhaps beyond. Things like arthritis, injury, cardiac
illness, etc. can all stop this but someone without debilitating illness
or injury can stay strong enough for this kind of thing into the century
point, _IF_ they keep active and exercise. Exercise of any sort, and
kayaking in particular, will help to keep the mind young. A healthy mind
in a healthy body and life is really worth living.
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From: Larry Bliven <foxhill_at_shore.intercom.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Age and Strength for kayaking (
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 21:24:25 -0400
>
> If one is basically healthy, there is no reason one can't kayak well
> into the 80's and perhaps beyond. Things like arthritis, injury, cardiac
> illness, etc. can all stop this but someone without debilitating illness
> or injury can stay strong enough for this kind of thing into the century
> point, _IF_ they keep active and exercise. Exercise of any sort, and
> kayaking in particular, will help to keep the mind young. A healthy mind
> in a healthy body and life is really worth living.
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
>            Dave Flory, San Jose, CA

if  one has health problems, a trailer might be useful. i know yet another
retired fellow who paddles 3 times/week... trailers his kayak to the boat
launch... floats it off, floats it on...

bye bye bliven

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From: Allison Corning <acorning_at_hotmail.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Age and Strength for kayaking (
Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 08:01:59 PDT
I'm not sure that age is the defining factor in getting the kayak to and 
from the water...I'm 25 and fairly strong, but have plenty of trouble 
getting the kayak on the car because of my height...I'm 5 foot 2 and find it 
really difficult to maneuver a large boat by myself...any suggestions from 
other short people?

Allison
who is looking forward to retirement and more free time for paddling etc

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From: Dave Flory <dflory_at_earthlink.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Age and Strength for kayaking (
Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 10:21:00 -0700
> I'm 5 foot 2 and find it 
> really difficult to maneuver a large boat by myself...any suggestions
from 
> other short people?

Allison, I'm not as height challenged as you are at 5-8, but at 5-2 my
wife knows exactly how you feel. We carry a little box in the Minivan,
it's made of sturdy one by wood and is a 1 foot cube, with a slot in the
top for the hand, work's pretty well when she has to reach up. As a
matter of fact it works so well we have a couple of them scattered
around the house.
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From: Andree Hurley <ahurley_at_viewit.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Age and Strength for kayaking (
Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 20:04:58 -0400 (EDT)
I lift mine up using my legs after putting in on my shoulder, carry itto 
the truck, put the bow on the padded bar, lower the stern carefully to
the ground, move to the stern and slide the bow forward and then put the 
stern on the back bar....(5'2" - 130 - 43 years, if you have to know)

On
Sat, 16 Oct 1999, Allison Corning wrote:

> I'm not sure that age is the defining factor in getting the kayak to and 
> from the water...I'm 25 and fairly strong, but have plenty of trouble 
> getting the kayak on the car because of my height...I'm 5 foot 2 and find it 
> really difficult to maneuver a large boat by myself...any suggestions from 
> other short people?
> 
> Allison
> who is looking forward to retirement and more free time for paddling etc
> 
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