Most fire departments dispose of fire hose from time to time. This stuff, cut up into convenient lengths, makes an excellent material for hanging just about any kind of boat. Very strong, never rots, and it's free. John Myers *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
|Given that the fiberglass used for most boats is fairly thin, wouldn't the shape |of the fiberglass eventually get distorted after months of storage (or less), |where the weight of the boat is supported by just two perhaps 1 inch-wide |straps? I'm thinking of using such a system, but my thought was to make a |couple of saddles using rectangular strips of canvas, each measuring perhaps a |foot wide and maybe 5 or 6 feet long. I would fasten each end of the canvas |strips around a one foot long steel rod, then tie a rope to the center of each |rod. Then the kayak would sit on nice one-foot wide supports. Does this sound |like overkill? My not very clever method of haning our kayaks from eye bolts. Nothing fancy at all. I tried the pulleys with my canoe but they left the boat hanging to low in the garage. Our kayaks are kevler, but I don't think it makes a difference compared to fiberglass, and our boats have been hanging with some retired 1 inch strapping we used to use to tied down the kayaks. No problems that I can see. My Old Town canoe which is made of Rolax(spelling boo boo) has been hanging on its side against the garage wall for a couple of years by rope. I don't see any problems with it either. Hope this helps... Dan McCarty *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Using wide sheets of fabric to support the boat is a good idea, provided it can quickly circle the boat via hooks, knots etc. No one on this list has suggested 1 in straps, the smallest I have seen mentioned is tow straps for vehicles 2-3 inches. I have used 3 in straps for years on a thin walled boat with ZERO adverse effects. If this is of further concern, you can adjust for the smaller width by centering the straps over the bulkheads for extra support. Using large 5-10 inch wide stirrups would be a great idea. I thought of doing this last night when I read Menards Sunday ad (hardware store) and saw that 4ft * 25 ft. sheets of burlap cloth are on sale for something like $5.00. One could take this cloth, cut in half lengthwise and then double it over once (2-ply). I would create a seam, and make this into a burlap hoop. One could suspend each side with sturdy rope, or the aforementioned pulleys. This would be a very sweet cradle. All of this is icing on the cake provided you have constructed a smooth pulley system already. Later, Phil thekayaker_at_yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
On Mon, 18 Oct 1999, Phil Huck wrote: > Using large 5-10 inch wide stirrups would be a > great idea. I thought of doing this last night when I > read Menards Sunday ad (hardware store) and saw that > 4ft * 25 ft. sheets of burlap cloth are on sale for > something like $5.00. One could take this cloth, cut > in half lengthwise and then double it over once > (2-ply). I would create a seam, and make this into a > burlap hoop. Burlap rots easily. "Sport nylon" at Jo-Ann's fabrics costs more than burlap, but you're not going to be using that much. It's $6-7 a yard. And Barge cement or contact cement holds it well, so you can do the project without sewing. e Elaine Harmon - eilidh_at_dc.seflin.org - eharmon_at_cs.miami.edu *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
On Mon, 18 Oct 1999, Phil Huck wrote: > > > Using large 5-10 inch wide stirrups would be a > > great idea. I thought of doing this last night when I > > read Menards Sunday ad (hardware store) and saw that > > 4ft * 25 ft. sheets of burlap cloth are on sale for > > something like $5.00. One could take this cloth, cut > > in half lengthwise and then double it over once > > (2-ply). I would create a seam, and make this into a > > burlap hoop. Why not the widest band possible, i.e. a stretcher? The canvas portion is about 6.5 feet long and the wooden poles that run along each side give plenty of support. The stretcher is about 17 inches or so wide, more than enough to support a boat up its sides. Have one wooden side support hooked on pulleys a few inches from either end. Drop the stretcher to the ground. Center the boat on the canvas of the stretcher. Attach the other wooden side support to the lines the pulley lines and then raise to the ceiling. I would like to pretend it is an original idea but it is an offshoot of the one contributed by Gabriel Romeu awhile ago. His boat storage device is basically a long cart he can roll out to his car and drop the boat directly on. Its boat support consists of a long piece of canvas that resembles a stretcher only it is support at four ends by upright posts. The cart is about four or five feet high by about 2 feet wide and six feet long. It is all on wheels and the lower part of the cart is basically an open bin into which to toss paddling gear such as PFDs, paddles etc. He then rolls it back into his garage. The virtue of a stretcher or Gabriel's chariot is that your boat gets a wide amount of support that conforms to its hull shape. ralph diaz -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Ralph Diaz . . . Folding Kayaker newsletter PO Box 0754, New York, NY 10024 Tel: 212-724-5069; E-mail: rdiaz_at_ix.netcom.com "Where's your sea kayak?"----"It's in the bag." ----------------------------------------------------------------------- *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
->No one on this list has suggested 1 in straps, the >smallest I have seen mentioned is tow straps for >vehicles 2-3 inches. I have used 3 in straps for years >on a thin walled boat with ZERO adverse effects. If >this is of further concern, you can adjust for the >smaller width by centering the straps over the >bulkheads for extra support. What I've used successfully are straps made from lawn chair webbing. Pretty wide, light, and strong. It can be purchased in large rolls for repair. Cut off what you need plus a few inches at the ends which you fold over a few times, staple to keep folded, then install a tarp grommet. Hooks or nails go into the thus-protected holes. I've also used these to hang kayaks on the garage wall. One loop hangs down and the other is in a big loop; put one end of the boat in that, then lift the other end of the boat, and take that webbing and hang it onto the nail. You're done. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
I use Scuba Weight Belts. You can slide it around the boat then use the large plastic quick release to fasten it and "Haul Away Joe" Cya *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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