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From: huck <huck_at_mhd1.moorhead.msus.edu>
subject: [Paddlewise] Kayak Stackers EXIST!
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 10:27:27 -0500
Somewhere between a repost either Joe Broza or Ralph Diaz said
(I lost track of whose quotes were whose)

Snip
Trouble is limitation in how many boats you can carry.  You can't stack
>em on their sides and therefore it looks like a small car could carry
>just two at best.  With roof rack bars you have a wider expanse for
>putting on the boats side by side.
>
>>
  Yakima makes something called a Kayak Stacker. It is meant for stacking 
kayaks on their rails - a very strong point on the boat.(pads are available)
  I purchased this kit along with the Sweet Roll. I use the Sweet Roll for my 
fav boat. And I use the kayak stacker for stacking my friends boats side by 
side. My little Metro is not limited to 2 boats in cradles. I can put 4 on 
with the stacker/cradle combo or 5 boats on total using the stackers alone. 
The car only seats 4 with room for gear in the back. Although one may argue 
that I could strap an expendable friend on the hood.

Far better than my old pickup.

Thank God for Yakima's Metro kit- I can haul all mine and my friends boats and 
still get 40 mpg.

Phil Huck
thekayaker_at_yahoo.com
huck_at_mhd1.moorhead.msus.edu

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From: Mark Zen <canoeist_at_netbox.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Kayak Stackers EXIST!
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 10:15:18 -0600 (MDT)
On Tue, 26 Oct 1999, huck wrote:

> Somewhere between a repost either Joe Broza or Ralph Diaz said
> (I lost track of whose quotes were whose)
> 
> Snip
> Trouble is limitation in how many boats you can carry.  You can't stack
> >em on their sides and therefore it looks like a small car could carry
> >just two at best.  With roof rack bars you have a wider expanse for
> >putting on the boats side by side.
> >
> >>
>   Yakima makes something called a Kayak Stacker. It is meant for stacking 
> kayaks on their rails - a very strong point on the boat.(pads are available)
>   I purchased this kit along with the Sweet Roll. I use the Sweet Roll for my 
> fav boat. And I use the kayak stacker for stacking my friends boats side by 
> side. My little Metro is not limited to 2 boats in cradles. I can put 4 on 
> with the stacker/cradle combo or 5 boats on total using the stackers alone. 
> The car only seats 4 with room for gear in the back. Although one may argue 
> that I could strap an expendable friend on the hood.
> 
> Far better than my old pickup.

subaru 4dr sedan, 1 17' gruman aluminum canoe, 4 plastic sea kayaks, one
on either side of the stacker you refer to, then the other 2 boats stacked
on top of the pile and tied down [2 belly straps each, plus a bow & stern
line] for 30+ mile drive on the highway. and that was with my standard
58" crossbars, if i had had my double wide bars, who knows how many boats
i could have loaded!!

mark

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From: <rdiaz_at_ix.netcom.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Kayak Stackers EXIST!
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 12:32:33 -0700
huck wrote:
> 
> Somewhere between a repost either Joe Broza or Ralph Diaz said
> (I lost track of whose quotes were whose)
> 
> Snip
> Trouble is limitation in how many boats you can carry.  You can't stack
> >em on their sides and therefore it looks like a small car could carry
> >just two at best.  With roof rack bars you have a wider expanse for
> >putting on the boats side by side.
> >
> >>
>   Yakima makes something called a Kayak Stacker. It is meant for stacking
> kayaks on their rails - a very strong point on the boat.

Yes, I know.  I had them for my Thule.  What I was referring to was that
the portable pads that don't use rack bars can't have a stacker device
as there are no cross pieces to place the stacker on.

I have piled as many as six kayaks on the Thule rack on my former
mini-van using the stackers.  Four sea kayaks on their sides (including
a folding single) and two whitewater boats on top and driven the
monstrosity several hundred miles.  The sides of a kayak, as you stated
in a snipped portion of your message, are the strongest point and having
pads on the bars make it less likely to damage the boats.

ralph
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