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From: <LIZCSTM_at_aol.com>
subject: [Paddlewise] Numbness (or worse) when paddling
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 02:15:18 EDT
This is fascinating.  I am 5'0" short and thought that the reason my legs and 
feet went numb was someway connect to my latest companion: Mr. Arthur Itis 
(along with Mr. Ben Gay)!

Sandy Kramer who refuses to act her age even if her joints are!

Well, Sandy!  I'm 5' 7" and fit into my kayak rather well.  But I'm also 64 
(just had a birthday earlier this month) and while I don't feel numb while pad
dling, stirring my bones and joints to get out of the kayak can be an 
experience not to forget.  To  my embarrassment (and to the amusement of 
others on the trip) I creak and groan when the moment of truth arrives -- 
getting out of the boat and onto dry land again.  Everything feels wonderful 
until I try to stand up and exit the kayak.  Then the hours of inactivity 
(for my lower half, anyway) take their toll.  Nothing wants to work.  Not hip 
joints, not legs, not anything!  I have been known to hitch myself up onto 
the back of my boat (just behind the cockpit), just to fall flat on my face 
in about 12" of water.  Most humiliating!  When I stay too long in one 
position, everything freezes up and won't cooperate when it's time to move 
along.  The upper half has been paddling furiously while the lower half has 
become frozen in time!  Ah, to be 25 again...

Liz Miller
Sacramento, CA
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From: John Waddington <waddinj_at_recorder.ca>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Numbness (or worse) when paddling
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 07:40:31 -0400
LIZCSTM_at_aol.com wrote:
I have been known to hitch myself up onto
> the back of my boat (just behind the cockpit), just to fall flat on my face
> in about 12" of water.  Most humiliating!  When I stay too long in one
> position, everything freezes up and won't cooperate when it's time to move
> along. 

I certainly know the feeling (or lack of feeling) of
everything freezing up when I have been in the kayak too
long, but if it is any consolation to you a pair of healthy
teenagers were out paddling with me the other day and when
we got home one of them stepped out of the boat only to find
out that his legs didn't want to do what he expected.  He
fell backwards across the rear deck, bounced off the deck
(it's a wooden kayak and he cracked my hatch cover,
unfortunately) then rolled off- mainly onto the beach.  So
it's not just us older folks!

John
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From: Kirk Olsen <kolsen_at_imagelan.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Numbness (or worse) when paddling
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 09:51:38 -0400 (EDT)
On Fri, 29 Oct 1999 LIZCSTM_at_aol.com wrote:

> Everything feels wonderful 
> until I try to stand up and exit the kayak.  Then the hours of inactivity 
> (for my lower half, anyway) take their toll.  Nothing wants to work.

As you head in for shore try shaking your legs around inside the boat.
For me "flapping" my legs back and forth quickly gets the blood to at least
start flowing.

I use this trick when doing races that involve portaging.  The act of
paddling hard, jumping out of the boat, running with the boat and then
jumping back in and paddling hard again can be fairly ugly.  For me the
most difficult part is getting back into the boat and paddling again.  My
arms are usually very unhappy to resume paddling.

kirk
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From: Elaine Harmon <eharmon_at_cs.miami.edu>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Numbness (or worse) when paddling
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 10:53:51 -0400 (EDT)
On Fri, 29 Oct 1999, Kirk Olsen wrote:

> On Fri, 29 Oct 1999 LIZCSTM_at_aol.com wrote:
> 
> > Everything feels wonderful 
> > until I try to stand up and exit the kayak.  Then the hours of inactivity 
> > (for my lower half, anyway) take their toll.  Nothing wants to work.
> 
> As you head in for shore try shaking your legs around inside the boat.
> For me "flapping" my legs back and forth quickly gets the blood to at least
> start flowing.

I find it helpful to form the habit of doing little "isometrics" from time
to time while paddling. Tighten up the gluteus Maximus and backs of the
thighs 10-15 times about every half hour and maybe more often when
approaching takeout. I also, while I'm thinking about it anyway, do some
forward-and-back curving of the lower spine, too. I think that helps. e


Elaine Harmon - eilidh_at_dc.seflin.org - eharmon_at_cs.miami.edu

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From: <dldecker_at_se.mediaone.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Numbness (or worse) when paddling
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 19:04:19 -0400
At 10:53 AM 10/29/99 -0400, Elaine Harmon wrote:
>On Fri, 29 Oct 1999, Kirk Olsen wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 29 Oct 1999 LIZCSTM_at_aol.com wrote:
>> 
>> > Everything feels wonderful 
>> > until I try to stand up and exit the kayak.  Then the hours of
inactivity 
>> > (for my lower half, anyway) take their toll.  Nothing wants to work.
>> 
>> As you head in for shore try shaking your legs around inside the boat.
>> For me "flapping" my legs back and forth quickly gets the blood to at least
>> start flowing.
>
>I find it helpful to form the habit of doing little "isometrics" from time
>to time while paddling. Tighten up the gluteus Maximus and backs of the
>thighs 10-15 times about every half hour and maybe more often when
>approaching takeout. I also, while I'm thinking about it anyway, do some
>forward-and-back curving of the lower spine, too. I think that helps. e
>
>
>Elaine Harmon - eilidh_at_dc.seflin.org - eharmon_at_cs.miami.edu
>


Gee whiz all this time when I have been paddling and pumping my legs with
each stroke and braceing I could of just left my legs still and let them go
to sleep? Really I do use my legs a lot when I paddle and they always go to
sleep after 5 or so minutes any way. I think the main reason is pinching
the main artery in each leg when you sit in that position to long. It
happens to me when I sit on the floor. Do you think the BIG beer gut has
anything to do with it, naw couldn't have, and I am young enough to be
yalls kid, he he :)

Dana
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