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From: Baard, Erik <Erik.Baard_at_dowjones.com>
subject: [Paddlewise] "The Media"
Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 14:36:41 -0400
Hi!

As you can guess from my e-mail address, I'm with "the media."  We also have
other media people on this list and at the Downtown Boathouse.  Not one of
our group has exploited our contact with Kennedy before the tragedy or
after, as far as I know.

I disagree with Ralph's narrow definition of "acquaintance."  If I were
reporting the story, I might well have used that word.  To me an
acquaintance is a person who has made personal contact with another, without
any definable relationship yet resulting.  "Friend" would have been
misleading, or even "friendly acquaintance."  But the noun as used wasn't
wrong. 

It reminds me of people who have spouses in every conceivable way, but fear
the "label!"  BTW Ralph, to me, in print or otherwise, you're a friend.  Is
that okay?  : ) 

As for using these letters...  Was it explicitly said in the article that
comments were made in this forum?  If so, then there was no ethical
violation. But the sourcing should be made clear.  It's uncomfortable, and
could put a chill on a few timid souls to speak less freely, but we know
that this isn't a "private" place.  To suppose otherwise is naive.

Think of it -- Can you name each person on the list?  No?  Then you've sent
a letter into a public space.  And even if you could, each recipient has the
right to cite your letter.  I have always known that, but don't shy away
from speaking my mind.

If you want to keep your thoughts private, shout them on the down-side of an
Eskimo roll!  : )

Erik



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From: Clifford <rcc7_at_ix.netcom.com>
subject: [Paddlewise] "The Media" & the list
Date: Tue, 05 Oct 1999 14:51:55 -0400
Folks,
    I agree with much of what Erik Baard reports. Public lists are not
appropriate forums for private, personal thoughts. After all you were indulging
in some morbid, retro-safety notions. JFK Jr. died in a plane crash not in a
kayak accident. Most folks are stil scratching their heads whether or not the
guy was an "acquaintence" "friendly acquaintance", etc..
    It is the responsibility of any list owner to make it clear that a
particular list is private and proprietary, not ot be quoted wihtout specific
permission. Going the "copyright" route is not so difficult or complicated.  We
have all seen such warnings, e.g. any ESPN sports broadcast. And, exercise
parsing the meaning of words ("friend", etc.) in a public forum has been provent
not to be particularly productive. I wish you well, and encourage the list to
move along to something more substantive. Richard



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