Re: [Paddlewise] Under The Waves-Hand Holders

From: Doug Lloyd <dlloyd_at_bc.sympatico.ca>
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 19:00:51 -0800
>Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 18:25:33 -0800
>To: Strosaker_at_aol.com
>From: Doug Lloyd <dlloyd_at_bc.sympatico.ca>
>Subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Under The Waves-Hand Holders
>
>At 11:02 AM 11/24/99 EST, Duane wrote nicely:
>>Hand Holders,
>>
>>I have really enjoyed reading the response to my post, and I was not 
>>surprised by the type of response I received either.  This list has been 
>>rather boring lately and needed some riling up, and I guess that is just
what 
>>I did.  I still stand behind my original post, but I think way too much was 
>>read into it.  
>
>I knew that was what you were up to Duane-the-Pain. And I knew you
wouldn't mind me taking a little liberty and indulgence with my response -
you wanted more liveness, so I tried to oblige. Hope I didn't disappoint
you. I didn't read way too much into your original post - just having some
fun. I too hate the long-winded instruction style, and that is why I have
not pursued BCU, ACA, or CRCA instructor certification, "cause I know it
could get boooooring real fast, though I do like exposure to skilled
paddlers like Nigel Foster and Mike McLure, for example. Rather, I put on
and/or assist with specific clinics of MY choice and liking. I do respect
those who pursue their instructors certification. It is real dedication and
patience.   
>
>>
>>I think it is great that Doug and Dave did this clinic, and I am a fan of 
>>Doug's postings on this list.  I just wanted to give my own perspective.  I 
>>have no apologies for not being Paddlewise and sea kayaking "politically 
>>correct."
>
>No need to not offer an apology :-)
>
>I have to be politically correct as possible as I work in a large
Government office run mostly by women. We actually take courses on
politically correct language and actions. We were actually told the
threshold point for looking at a women the wrong way, after which point it
becomes harassment. 
>
>Some of my comments - fun stuff aside - were intended for a wider audience
than you. I do feel strongly that being overly macho has attendant
problems. You should read some of the Australian kayaking club newsletters.
Australian male kayakers seem very aggressive and make rude comments in
print about fragile female egos and women who can't keep up with their
superior paddle pace. On second thought, maybe you should move down there!
Just kidding Duane. 
>
>BC'in Ya
>Doug Lloyd 
>
>
>>Duane Strosaker
>>Southern California
>>
>>
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