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From: <superiorvisions_at_att.net>
subject: [Paddlewise] speed it up
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 17:19:49 +0000
Hello Paddle Wisers,

When I go sea kayaking with members of our local club
I am known as the one who sleeps in and pops out of the 
tent one hour before we launch. While I am taking down 
my tent I eat a cold breakfast between packing duties 
and like a lot of other paddle Wisers I packed and 
organized a good deal of my equipment the night before.

When I sleep the night in a bivi bag the process can be 
cut down to a ready to paddle time of forty-five minutes.

Good Paddling,

Don Dimond	
Owner of Superior Visions Sea Kayaking School
Board Member of Twin Cities Sea Kayaking Association
Director of Midwest Alliance of Sea Kayaking Educators	
			
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From: <KiAyker_at_aol.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] speed it up
Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 18:19:51 EST
<< * ditch the hot breaky and coffee!!! >>

   SUCH HERESY!!! No coffee in the morning! You MUST be kidding! What I've 
been doing (which I've mentioned before on this list) is carrying a stainless 
steel thermos with me on my trips. I will boil up enough coffee to fill the 
thermos the night before. Then in the morning I have hot coffee and a couple 
of Cliff bars and I'm on my way. The thermos can wait to be cleaned later 
that evening. No muss, no fuss :-)

Scott
So.Cal.
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From: Patrick Maun <pmaun_at_bitstream.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] speed it up
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 13:04:08 -0600
At 5:19 PM +0000 11/15/99, superiorvisions_at_att.net wrote:
>When I go sea kayaking with members of our local club
>I am known as the one who sleeps in and pops out of the
>tent one hour before we launch. While I am taking down
>my tent I eat a cold breakfast between packing duties
>and like a lot of other paddle Wisers I packed and
>organized a good deal of my equipment the night before.


When I go out, I'm the one who has to be dragged from his tent 
kicking and screaming and then proceeds to make an extremely 
complicated breakfast. Then I need my morning staring off into the 
distance time. Oh, and did I mention wander the beach looking for 
berries for breakfast time? Or the play around with the maps time?

-Patrick
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From: Reeves, Debbie (Debbie) <"Reeves,>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] speed it up
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 14:42:25 -0500
Mike -

You can come with us (Atlantic Sea Kayakers) anytime!  We are a 2hour +
crowd (generally).  Most kayakers (in our group anyway) tend to be early
risers, so even by taking a couple of hours in the morning, we can still be
on the water by 9 or 10.  If tide or weather are dictating shove-off times,
generally we get up earlier rather than trying to change our packing
patterns and messing up personal rhythms.  If I am out on a multi-day trip,
I am doing it for pure enjoyment not to see how fast I can get everything
done.  I am not about to skip breakfast and drink luke warm coffee that was
brewed the night before!  Not me!

My tent is the last thing packed (into a drybag), it goes in the cockpit
with me, and it is the first thing out when I arrive at the next site.  That
way, should there be a weather problem that requires shelter mid-day, one is
available for the group to pile into if need be.

Debbie Reeves
Sandy Hook, NJ

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> From: 	Michael Daly[SMTP:michaeldaly_at_home.com]
> Sent: 	Saturday, November 13, 1999 11:14 PM
> To: 	Paddlewise
> Subject: 	Re: [Paddlewise] speed it up
> 
> Tomckayak_at_aol.com wrote:
> > 
> > So it turned out that even when we where trying it still took 2 hours!
> > 
> 
> 
> I'm gonna take this and every other post that said it takes two hours 
> to break camp and take them, suitably printed on tyvek, on every trip
> where folks complain that it takes me two hours to break camp.  I agree
> with Dan - there are dozens (hundreds!!) of little things that have to 
> be done and, while each takes little time, they all add up... to two
> hours!
> 
> Mike
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From: Mark Zen <canoeist_at_netbox.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] speed it up
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 17:23:04 +0000
At 23:18 11/13/99 -0500, Michael Daly wrote:
>RiDem wrote:
>> 
>> To me, that seemed like a
>> real safety factor; because  the tent was the last  thing packed, there was
>> always an opportunity to "reconsider and retreat", back into the tent.
>
>Somewhere way in the past, I was taught that the tent should be the first
>thing up and the last thing packed.  I follow this rule religiously and 
>many people think I'm nuts.  I'm glad to hear someone else does something
>like this.  
>
>Do others?
>
>Mike

when we had our "emergency" earlier this year, yes, the first thing up
was the tent, and even when we had pulled up tothe river with our cars,
we didn't take the tent down until 1/2+ of the gear was safely in the 
cars. i also pack my gear in the morning, while sitting inside the tent.

i'm usually done 30+ minutes before everyone else... the goups i've been
on trips with usually take 2+ hours to get ready...

mark


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From: <Sandykayak_at_aol.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] speed it up
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 19:29:42 EST
In a message dated 11/15/1999 2:09:39 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
pmaun_at_bitstream.net writes:

<<  When I go out, I'm the one who has to be dragged from his tent 
 kicking and screaming and then proceeds to make an extremely 
 complicated breakfast. Then I need my morning staring off into the 
 distance time. Oh, and did I mention wander the beach looking for 
 berries for breakfast time? Or the play around with the maps time?
 
 -Patrick >>

And the anal retentives still ask you to join them?  You're probably a good 
candidate for the solo paddlers club.

Sandy Kramer who wakes up between 5 and 6 AM regardles of where or when.  Of 
course, by 9P, I'm yawning.  They usually have to wake me up at midnight on 
New Year's Eve!!

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