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From: Philip Torrens <skerries_at_hotmail.com>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Air-to-Air, Air-to-Ground
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 09:57:50 PST
> > Can you describe what you saw the eagles doing? You may have been lucky
> > enough to witness some aerial courtship in which the eagles descend in
> > series of somersaults and sometimes lock talons. It's quite spectacular.
> > Karen
>
Any of the real "birders" on the list (I'm just a dabbler, as it were), want 
to confirm or correct my hazy memory:
I believe I remember reading somewhere that eagles (or it may have been some 
other birds of prey) not only court in the air but have been  known to 
consumate the courtship by flying up to maximum altitude, and achieving 
congress during freefall. Talk about your mile-high club. Makes using 
airplane washrooms seem really wimpy. So, true or flase? - perspiring minds 
want to know.

Philip Torrens
N49°16' W123°06'

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From: <Niilus_at_aol.com>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Air-to-Air, Air-to-Ground
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 18:44:24 EST
Philip Torrens wrote:
>
>Any of the real "birders" on the list (I'm just a dabbler, as it were), want 
>to confirm or correct my hazy memory:
>I believe I remember reading somewhere that eagles (or it may have been some 
>other birds of prey) not only court in the air but have been  known to 
>consumate the courtship by flying up to maximum altitude, and achieving 
>congress during freefall. Talk about your mile-high club. Makes using 
>airplane washrooms seem really wimpy. So, true or flase? - perspiring minds 
>want to know.
>

According to The Birder's Handbook, Paul R. Ehrlich et. al., 1988, p. 220, 
Bald Eagles have "Spectacular aerial courtship, incl locking talons and 
descending in series of somersaults."   However, I don't believe they 
actually copulate in the air.

However, according to Ehrlich p. 319, "Among the most spectacular sights 
North American bird enthusiasts can see is a mating flight of White-throated 
Swifts.  A group may come swooping down a canyon at high speed, shortly after 
dawn, with pairs tumbling together as they copulate in midair."

I also thought that Frigatebirds copulated in air but I couldn't find a 
reference.  I may be wrong on this.

Tony Niilus (a birder)
Upland, CA

 and on p. 319
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From: Dave Kruger <dkruger_at_pacifier.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Air-to-Air, Air-to-Ground
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 17:27:47 -0800
Niilus_at_aol.com wrote:

> According to The Birder's Handbook, Paul R. Ehrlich et. al., 1988, p. 220,
> Bald Eagles have "Spectacular aerial courtship, incl locking talons and
> descending in series of somersaults."   However, I don't believe they
> actually copulate in the air.
> 
> However, according to Ehrlich p. 319, "Among the most spectacular sights
> North American bird enthusiasts can see is a mating flight of White-throated
> Swifts.  A group may come swooping down a canyon at high speed, shortly after
> dawn, with pairs tumbling together as they copulate in midair."

The eagles around here definitely do it in the air.  Sometimes it looks like
they will surely crash to the ground.

-- 
Dave Kruger
Astoria, OR

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From: <SKILLIANS_at_aol.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Air-to-Air, Air-to-Ground
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 22:19:41 EST
In a message dated 11/15/1999 5:51:17 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
dkruger_at_pacifier.com writes:

<< The eagles around here definitely do it in the air.  Sometimes it looks 
like
 they will surely crash to the ground. >>

What, no jokes about the mile high club? I am so disappointed!
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From: Gabriel L Romeu <romeug_at_erols.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Air-to-Air, Air-to-Ground
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 20:57:26 -0500
> I also thought that Frigatebirds copulated in air but I couldn't find a 
> reference.  I may be wrong on this.
> 

For some loose  reference to the  correct outfitting threads, the
frigate bird cannot fly with wet wings.  All the fish they eat are
stolen from other birds, generally in flight (this may have some
relevance to the macho thread too).

I am working on a tiny pfd that will allow big wing movements... 
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