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From: Mike McNally <mmcnally3_at_PRODIGY.NET>
subject: [Paddlewise] A tarp of a different shape
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 18:41:33 -0600
I have a problem with the squareness of tarps.

I would like to cut a tarp of a good light tent fly material in the shape
shown below, with 2 grommets on the short end and 3 on the long end, and
reinforcement for a center pole.
__________________
\                                       /
  \                                   /
    \                              /
      \           O            /
        \ _________/

Stake the short end and tie up the long end and put in a stick where the O
is.  This keeps the tarp low to avoid blowing rain and blocks the wind
almost entirely from one direction.  The 2 triangles removed from the
original rectangular shape are worthless material.  Most of that material is
down at the staked to the ground end, and thus useless.

Why not tie it up in the air?  Well, the wind will blow the rain under it
and I find it a pain to find 4 trees in the proper places to hold it up.  2
trees are easy to find, so I stretch a line and tie up one end and stake
down the other.

You want a tarp for 6 instead of 2/3?  Duplicate this shape symetrically
about the long end, and stake both short ends to the ground with the middle
strung over a line between 2 trees.

This is a new idea of mine, so I am interested to see if anybody has any
other perspective on how to tarp a cooking area with minimal material.  And
what material would you advise?

Mike

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From: Dave Kruger <dkruger_at_pacifier.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] A tarp of a different shape
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 17:42:54 -0800
Mike McNally wrote:

[Re:  his trapezoid tarp design.]

> This is a new idea of mine, so I am interested to see if anybody has any
> other perspective on how to tarp a cooking area with minimal material.  And
> what material would you advise?

I've not had the problems you describe with trad. rectangular tarps, if I
understand the use you have made of them.  If the narrow end of your
trapezoidal design goes close to ground, then I'd put the pole reinforcement
closer to the longer leg of the trapezoid than your ASCII drawing shows.

Re:  doubling:  sounds good to me.

The reason I've been happy with rectangular tarps is that I use the "wings"
you want to discard to shut off side-drafts and drips.  The areas protected by
the "wings" end up as places to store gear, since they are usually too low to
the ground for people to sit under.

-- 
Dave Kruger
Astoria, OR
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From: 735769 <735769_at_ican.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] A tarp of a different shape
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 07:23:39 -0500
Mike wrote;



> I have a problem with the squareness of tarps.
>
(SNIP)


You may want to take a look at the Dri-Fly from Outdoor Solutions (they may
have a web site).

Their fly, designed by  Dave Buckley, works better than any other I have
seen or used.

Cheers,

John Winters
Redwing Designs
Web site address, http://home.ican.net/~735769

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From: Tom Unger <unger_at_tumtum.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] A tarp of a different shape
Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 20:14:51 -0800
735769 wrote:
> You may want to take a look at the Dri-Fly from Outdoor Solutions (they may
> have a web site).

they seem to be at http://www.greenval.com/outdoor.html


I used a regular rectangular tarp last summer with good successs.  I had
two polls, several ropes, and pitched it in one of several ways
depending on the conditions.  It was OK in wind, but not great.  

See: http://www.tumtum.com/gallery/images/hakai/hra_134_BlairMyCamp1.jpg
for one configuration.  

I liked the flexibility of the general - rectangular tarp but hope to
improve over what I used last summer.  Depending on where I go I may
want to make it also serve as bug protection by attaching netting to the
parimiter.  I'm still looking for the right solution.

If you want to sew your own you can get any fabrics you need from
Seattle Fabrics:

http://www.seattlefabrics.com/


Tom.





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