The 5 or 6 times I have slept out of doors sans tent, plus the times as a youth that I camped in a tent with out rainfly, have all impressed me with the quantity of dew. Sleeping inside a tent with a rainfly, a morning with a heavy dew will have little effect on your comfort. Outside is like having a bucket of cold water tossed on you about 2.5 hrs before you get up. The rainfly is a quantum leap forward in tent technology and you can get tents with flys that wt less than 3lbs. I would not be without it. Inside of a bivy bag the dew would form... well, inside of the bivy bag. Not that I have slept in a bivy, but where else would the dew form? If you could keep a little fire smoldering just outside of a tarped area, with 3 sides of the tarp to the ground ala the Bill Mason style camping, that might be nice, albeit a fire hazard. For a light tent, take a look at the 2 hoop non-self supporting tent designs. The sierra clip flashlight was one of the first. I like the mountainhardware designs myself. Mike Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 15:43:03 EST From: Amigh2_at_aol.com Subject: re: [Paddlewise] tent v. bivy bag what are folks favorites for overnight/multi-day trips? do most use tents, bivy bags, or a simple tarp? i would be interested in hearing what you use and why you like it. cheers, a. mariani *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Mike McNally wrote: > Inside of a bivy bag the dew would form... well, inside of the bivy bag. > Not that I have slept in a bivy, but where else would the dew form? Dew forms on the outside of a good bivy bag, not on the inside. You only have to worry about inside condensation if you are using something non-breathable for a bivy, such as a sheet of plastic or space blanket. For ultra-light multi-day tripping in a sprint racing kayak, I did not have room for a bivy bag, so I picked up a goretex sleeping bag. It is marvelous. (Though only for late season paddling when it is too cold for bugs). It also is very handy to bring along in my rescue pack when skiing. Cheers, Richard Culpeper *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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