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From: Erik Sprenne <sprenne_at_netnitco.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Rolling - was (Definitly Semantics)
Date: Wed, 1 Dec 1999 01:13:02 -0600
On Tuesday, November 30, 1999 1:39 AM, you wrote:
> 
> What I call a Screw Roll might be what you
> call a C to C Roll, yet to me there are differences (Srew Roll to me is
> done with a lay-back recovery). Basically, we should drop some of these
> names or use them more generically, because our use, interpretation, and
> practice of the various rolls bantered about lately are somewhat
ill-defined.
> 
> There is basically two rolls only - the sweep and the brace roll (and
> combinations). Some do it with a forward lean, and end up with a forward
> lean, and some with a backwards lean (and visa-versa and/or a
combination,
> and some call it a forward or backwards recovery, etc). There are forward
> sweeps and backward sweeps and half rolls and full. In the end, there are
a
> lot of semantics, most definitely.
> 
> I happen to like the Sweep Roll because it starts rotational energy early
> on, and I find it can work well when I'm having trouble with my hip-snap
> (often).  If I can't seem to get up, I switch to the Verticle Storm Roll
-
> sounds cool, but it is basically just a Pawlata Roll (I do believe). 
> 

Ultimately, it doesn't matter what it's called - if it gets you back
upright it's a successful roll.  One could argue that the only two types of
rolls are successful ones and unsuccessful ones :-)

Having said that, one way of differentiating the C-to-C and screw/sweep
roll is this:
During the C-to-C roll, the paddle is unweighted during the sweep to a
perpendicular position, and is weighted only during the 'explosive' C-to-C
righting motion.  In the screw/sweep roll, the paddle is weighted as soon
as the sweeping motion begins from the set-up position, and the righting
motion is more gradual and continuous.

Rolls are similar to strokes in that pure versions are taught, but in
practice elements of the pure versions are combined in many different ways
to suit the circumstances at hand.  

Erik Sprenne
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