>From: paragrant_at_webtv.net (Paul Grant) >I am considering buying a drysuit top and neoprene/fleece pants as a >kayaking uniform for winter (or year round) in the Puget Sound. My >objections to full drysuit are price and its too hard to get on and off. >Has anyone tried this combination and are you happy with it? Also, does >a drysuit bib work with a nylon tunneled spray skirt? Any preferences >in brands? Thanks for any info. Paul Hi Paul, Although the full drysuit would obviously be the choice were money no object (sigh…), wetsuits do have their place, and some advantages; though wetsuits offer less insulation than an unpunctured drysuit, wetsuits are very tough and continue to offer a lot of protection even if holed in places; a flooded drysuit can turn from an asset into a liability, and the latex seals on a drysuit need a fair degree of maintenance. I'm referring to farmer john wetsuits here - diving wetsuits are not appropriate. So I'd suggest your first purchase should be a farmer john wetsuit. Upgrade to a drysuit when you can afford it. No matter which combination you set out with, I'd also consider some insulation for the head essential - a lot of heat is lost through the head if you swim. Plus a hood may reduce the chances of swimming in the first place, by reducing the brain-freezing "ice-cream headache" caused by sudden capsize in cold water. This headache causes a lot of people who can Eskimo roll reliably in a pool to "abandon ship" in the real world. A full neoprene hood provides the most protection, but some people find it a bit claustrophobic, especially under a helmet, and that it reduces their hearing (you can cut earholes to offset this, though at some reduction of insulation value). Personally I'm a big fan of those thinnner "skull caps". While not as warm as a full hood, they are very comfortable, and therefore possibly more likely to be on your head when you need them. They also increase your warmth by a surprising amount, and are a easier "additional layer" to put on in the sort of exciting situations where you propably shouldn't try to peel off your drytop and add another fleece jacket:-) Skull caps do make you look somewhat like a deranged Medieval peasant from a Monty Python movie, but they work. I would say drytops can complement farmer john wetsuits nicely. I've worn a farmer john wetsuit/drytop combo when surf kayaking and found the top stayed surprisingly dry and buoyant, even when I swam in big waves. Bare in mind this was with a whitewater sprayskirt that fits up between the outer jacket and the inner "gasket", and forms a good double-layer seal. If you were using it with a touring sprayskirt with suspenders, I'd suggest wearing the jacket entirely inside the sprayskirt tunnel, and cinching the neoprene jacket "cummberbund" waist as tight as comfortable for the best seal. The waist seal is a "weak link" in the system (as an aside, from an "engineering" point of view, the human body is the weak link in the system - it's quite hard to form an effective seal around body protrusions. However, I imagine a simple over-sized drybag that sealed the entire paddler in would meet with some consumer resistance.) Anyway, in the case of the drytop, so long as the latex seals at wrists and neck hold, air pressure will prevent or minimise water from flooding up at the waist, in the same way that you can push an inverted glass down into water without the water flooding to fill the glass. In the worst-case scenario, if the drytop did flood, the water will only rise to "sea level", which if you're wearing a PFD and a wetsuit, will be safely below your mouth. As you wade ashore, or reboard your boat, the water will drain off. Plus the wetsuit continues to provide a good degree of insulation. In any situation where I felt a wetsuit would not provide enough immersion protection, I'd wear a one-piece drysuit rather than a two-piece - one less thing (the waist seal) to fail. I'd also second the motion about a relief zip. It's one of nature's cruel practical jokes that the need to pee is most urgent in those sort of cold and bouncy situations where it's impractical to take off the suit. A folding Velcro overflap over a seamed slit is the way to go; it does somewhat increase the "bellows effect" of cold water ingress if you swim, but again this is more than offset by the increased likelyhood you'll be wearing your suit when you need it if you can pee when needed. (I made this modification to an off-the-shelf wetsuit sold by my employer - an outdoor retailer - and suggested to our marine buyer we should market suits with this feature as the "Free Willy" model, however we were concened Disney would sue our assests off:-) I'd be very leary of the fleece pants/drytop combo. The fleece would provide little if any protection if you swam, and would tend to "wick" cold water up into your drytop. Similiarly, I'd mistrust a drysuit "bib" for fear it might fill up and hamper my swimming or reentry efforts, but note this fear is based on surmise rather than experience. I hope this is all of some help. Happy and safe paddling. Philip Torrens N49°16' W123°06' *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************Received on Tue Jan 11 2000 - 08:12:39 PST
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