RE: [Paddlewise] Relief zippers

For what it is worth...

With Scuba Diving Dry Suits many people, well guys anyway, are using 
"overboard discharge valves".

Essentially a condom catheter is connected to a discharge valve mounted in 
the suit. I suppose for a long crossing, this could be modified to dump 
into an empty bottle or something like that.

An example of this can be viewed at 
 http://www.gue.com/equipment/pvalve.html

It was a "fantastic" addition to my diving suit.

.Hal


-----Original Message-----
From:	Michael Daly [SMTP:michaeldaly_at_home.com]
Sent:	den 13 januari 2000 03:24
To:	paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net
Subject:	Re: [Paddlewise] Relief zippers

Kenneth Cooperstein wrote:

> As to relieving yourself at sea, I don't understand how a relief zipper
> helps.  Opening the skirt,  taking off your gloves, unzipping, finding
> your way through all the layers, all the while balancing the boat, is
> highly problematic.  Then, you have the problem of not peeing all over
> yourself.  Seems much easier to just get a $12 condom catheter and leg
> bag.  Ladies can use an adult diaper.

The relief zipper, to me, is to make life easy on shore.  I don't want to 
struggle
with the main zipper and getting out of the suit*.   If I had a _looong_ 
crossing
to do, I'd probably go with a catheter.  Most of my paddling is involves 
short
distance island hopping, so I've never practiced the art of in-kayak 
peeing.

Mike

*(I'll never forget the time I first tried on a dry suit.  I thought I'd 
die, trapped inside
the partially removed suit in the change room at the store, with no one to 
rescue me!).

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