Bob, Are WS now only selling the Cape Horn with a rudder? Or is that just the claim of a local dealer wanting to sell a Cape Horn with a rudder. I bought mine without one and has so far not found any real good reason to install one. Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob Denton <BDenton_at_aquagulf.com> To: 'Peter Veng-Pedersen' <veng_at_uiowa.edu>; Bob Denton <BDenton_at_aquagulf.com>; <paddler_at_loxinfo.co.th>; 'Paddlewise news group' <paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net> Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2000 2:09 PM Subject: RE: [Paddlewise] No need for a rudder... finally > The operative word in my initial response is "looks". The lack of volume in > the Sealution's bow and Teikins attempt at Greenlandesque lines results in > the Sealution slicing into short chop. In confused seas it becomes quite a > handful with a 200 lb paddler. > > I absolutely agree that judging a boat without paddling it is like buying a > mail order bride. The Sealution was actually designed to be produced WITHOUT > a rudder but WS added one as a matter of course. The Cape Horn is not > offered without one. I wonder how a skeg would work? > > Good luck with your new boat! > > cya > > -----Original Message----- > From: Peter Veng-Pedersen [mailto:veng_at_uiowa.edu] > Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2000 1:11 PM > To: Bob Denton; paddler_at_loxinfo.co.th; 'Paddlewise news group' > Subject: Re: [Paddlewise] No need for a rudder... finally > > > Bob, > Before I decided on the Cape Horn I tried most of the popular touring kayaks > from Dagger, WS and Perception. Cape Horn is a fundamentally different hull > design from Harrie's Sealution design. It is not just a matter of adding a > bit more bow volume. One thing I learned from trying out several kayaks was > that it is very difficult to judge the feel of the kayak in the water until > you have tried it. Looking at a kayak above the waterline is a bit like > kicking tires on a car. > Peter > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Bob Denton <BDenton_at_aquagulf.com> > To: 'Peter Veng-Pedersen' <veng_at_uiowa.edu>; <paddler_at_loxinfo.co.th>; > 'Paddlewise news group' <paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net> > Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2000 10:03 PM > Subject: RE: [Paddlewise] No need for a rudder... finally > > > > The Cape Horn looks a bit like a hard chined short Sealution. The > Sealution > > I owned for a short while was a squirrelly boat in short shop. Harry seems > > to have added more volume to the bow which may correct that problem. What > > other yaks did you paddle? > > > > cya > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net > > [mailto:owner-paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net]On Behalf Of Peter > > Veng-Pedersen > > Sent: Monday, January 03, 2000 6:51 AM > > To: paddler_at_loxinfo.co.th; Paddlewise news group > > Subject: Re: [Paddlewise] No need for a rudder... finally > > > > > > I spend several days trying out many sea yaks at demo days here in the > > Midwest region and got quite annoyed by the need for using a rudder for > > directional stability when a significant wind is blowing. Also, at aerobic > > speed many yaks tend to diverge from the intended direction if you skip a > > couple of strokes for a little break or do not "closely balance" your > > stokes. I was NOT impressed about several of the "top of the line" sea > yaks. > > Trying the Cape Horn (http://www.wildsys.com/kayaks.html ) was a VERY > > pleasant experience. There is something quite magic about this hull > design. > > No wonder WS claim they spend more R&D on this design that any other of > > their designs. (A big compliment to the designer Harrie Tieken ). I am > now > > a very happy owner of a Cape Horn. My advice to anybody planning on buying > a > > sea yak DON'T trust anybody about the suitability for you. TRY IT OUT !!! > > Peter > > > *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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