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From: Chuck Holst <CHUCK_at_multitech.com>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Small car capability (was -Primitive Transport)
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 09:59:33 -0600
>>
In a message dated 1/27/00 10:58:19 PM, michaeldaly_at_home.com writes:

>Two sea kayaks and a rack are about the same weight as one small person.
>The gear I carry for two on a long weekend's trip weighs about the same
>again.
>Not what I'd consider an excessive load and well within the ratings for
>the car.

Within the weight ratings, certainly. But what about factoring in the 
additional wind resistance load (s) both just plain going down the road, and

also in crosswinds?  

<snip>

Scott
>>

Kayaks are so streamlined that I doubt they create much drag on the car.
Last summer my wife forgot to strap down her Romany, and we drove at speeds
up to 55 mph on the freeway before I noticed the bow moving up and down
slightly. If the kayak had much drag, I'm sure it would have flown off the
car.

Chuck Holst
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From: Michael Daly <michaeldaly_at_home.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Small car capability (was -PrimitiveTransport)
Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 09:57:51 -0500
Chuck Holst wrote:

> >>
> In a message dated 1/27/00 10:58:19 PM, michaeldaly_at_home.com writes:
>
> >Two sea kayaks and a rack are about the same weight as one small person.
> >The gear I carry for two on a long weekend's trip weighs about the same
> >again.  Not what I'd consider an excessive load and well within the ratings for
> >the car.
>
> Within the weight ratings, certainly. But what about factoring in the
> additional wind resistance load (s) both just plain going down the road, and
> also in crosswinds?
> <snip>
> Scott
> >>
>
> Kayaks are so streamlined that I doubt they create much drag on the car.
> Last summer my wife forgot to strap down her Romany, and we drove at speeds
> up to 55 mph on the freeway before I noticed the bow moving up and down
> slightly. If the kayak had much drag, I'm sure it would have flown off the
> car.

One way to look at the drag effect is to consider that drag increases with the square
of velocity.  Hence, if the kayak adds 21% drag, that's equivalent to the car without
the kayak going 10% faster ( 1.10 squared is 1.21).  Or if the kayak increases drag
by 44% - 20% faster.  Doubling the drag is like driving a clean car 41% faster.  So
the effect on wear and tear is like driving at a higher speed.  Pick your guess on
the drag increase and see what the effective increase in speed does to your
mechanical system.

Mike


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